Perhaps even more disturbingly, these people are usually impossible to engage in spiritual conversation. Broaching spiritual topics will inevitably lead to them automatically and internally "translating" them into political ideas, which inevitably fail to grasp even the fundamentals of the spiritual idea in the same way that a silhouette of a complex object fails utterly to grasp its true form. They will then argue back against this silhouette with their own hylic political philosophy, and inevitably at the core of it are the same usual assumptions about the nature of truth and goodness that are inherent to the ideological school that they embody.

Even the ones who claim to be spiritual (such as Christian Fascists, or "witchy" Communists) expose themself through superficial conversation to have simply latched onto ideas that justify the underlying principles of their political philosophy. Christianity lends itself well to this because its theology demands unthinking acceptance and an absence of meaningful scrutiny. Occult tendencies are also employable in this regard in that they are (deliberately) mystically defined and thus, nebulously defined, which means that those who thoughtlessly parrot them can easily reduce them to a sense of meaningless aesthetics in which the primary value is their ability to visibly resist the social norms of their opponents.

An easy way to test this is to try to speak to any of them about magic. You will find that the Christian ones frequently deny that magic exists at all, even though many magicians (such as Abraham and Jesus) are present within their tradition, even though magicians who run contrary to their tradition (such as SImon Magus) are considered adversarial and worthy of meaningful confrontation, and even though the Bible explicitly prohibits sorcery. You will also find that the majority of "witchy queer" type people make hostile jokes when confronted with actual magical ideas, or even openly mock you for "believing in" the very thing they purport to be able to do. If they do not do this, they will nebulously imply that they can curse you, and of course, if you prompt them to actually do this, they will fail, because they have no idea how magic works and have never done any.