unix and plan9 and bsds and even linux + their userlands are still overwhelmingly amazing to me and all they have, even X11 still holds up for its time, wayland solves its own shit too which rocks. vulkan vs opengl etc etc, emacs and vim. its such a pretty stack compared to the other soyslop messes that exist. ppl should be more appreciative and intrinsic in the software dev world instead of complaing, a lot of shit is done nicely :hapyfroth: