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翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 12-Dec-2022 19:09:20 JST翠星石 @elsandosgrande >Calling Linux “GNU/Linux” isn’t going to do diddly squat in that regard.
I have never referred to the kernel, Linux as "GNU/Linux.
>When the average individual hears either “Linux” or “GNU/Linux”, they don’t think: “Oh, kernel versus kernel plus core utilities.”
No, GNU is not just a set of coreutils, although one package is a coreutils implementation: https://www.gnu.org/software/
>they either don’t know what the Hell those are, or they think: “Oh, that desktop operating system that’s neither macOS nor Windows.”
Most people haven't heard of GNU, so mentioning it gives them a chance to discover software freedom.
All is good if a listener understands that GNU/Linux is an OS.
>Most people either don’t know or don’t care to know how the sausage is made, so saying “GNU/Linux” instead of just “Linux” doesn’t let them know anything; all this does is create a rift in the community and lead people to engage in futile arguments
Since most people don't care how the sausage is made you wish to hide how it's made from those who wish to know?
I cannot fathom as to how calling the GNU OS by its name creates at "rift", unless one group is looking to rewrite history and the present, hmm...
>Shoving GNU in people’s faces so vehemently isn’t achieving what you think it’s achieving.
Yet you try to shove the proprietary kernel know as "Linux" in my face with all your might?
>Most people don’t care about software freedom if it means that what they can do with their device is restricted, or their choice of device is restricted, or both, because that to them is a greater restriction of freedom than the software being closed-source;
Free software doesn't limit what you can do with your device - you can do anything you wish.
Some devices are designed to jail the user and it's our fault that the device jails the user?
Devices that respect the users freedom are decently documented and are reasonably priced.
>Hell, sadly, most people don’t even know what open source is.
Yes, since the natural meaning of "open source" is; you can't look at the source code.
>Say we want to get half a billion people around the globe using Linux.
Far more than that already use such kernel due to android, but those users sadly don't have freedom.
I don't give a rats ass about popularity.
>Professing about its software freedom and user privacy benefits could get dozens of thousands, even hundreds of thousands to a million people to come over to Linux that way, but it’s not enough to make a truly meaningful impact.
Um, more than a million people use the GNU OS already, what are you on about?
I'm personally only are interested in freedom enjoyers.
>for Linux to, at minimum, be essentially at parity with Windows and/or macOS in terms of features, usability, and performance, if not better than it
Linux is only a kernel, so it cannot match an OS at anything.
The GNU OS far surpassed every last proprietary OS in terms of features, usability and performance years ago.
>for there to be a hassle-free way to run Linux on the devices that people currently own
Plenty of easy to use GNU installers already exist.
>for there to be a hassle-free way to keep their workflow uninterrupted after switching to Linux, like there being open-source alternatives which are at feature parity or even beyond that with whatever they were using on Windows or macOS and fully support the exact same data exchange formats that they use with their proprietary applications, or the proprietary applications having a Linux build, ala DaVinci Resolve
I'm not interested in pandering to people who are unable to change their workflow slightly.
>there have to be basically no sacrifices made when switching to Linux.
There are no sacrifices made when switching to GNU - you gain freedom.
Casting away the chains of proprietary things is not a sacrifice.
>but a world where most people run Linux with a few blobs here and there and with proprietary firmware seems a lot freer than a world where most people run Windows and macOS with all binary blobs and proprietary firmware.
You aren't free if there's anything proprietary - almost free, but never reaching 100% free is pretty much as bad as all proprietary really.
>Saying “GNU/Linux” as opposed to just “Linux” doesn’t convey anything useful in and of itself, most people don’t want to restrict what they can do with their devices or what devices they can buy, that is sacrifice things, for a cause that they’ve just learned about or that they don’t have much interest in yet, and a hassle-free experience is basically a necessity for most people to switch over yet can be nigh-impossible depending on what you need to do for work and whatnot.
GNU/Linux will be utterly ruined if more people come over with all their proprietary malware, miss me with that please.
Hmm, maybe I'll end up having to look down from the high spires of GNU/Hurd soon™.