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@Humpleupagus @s2208 @Nils I will use an analogy from cars - it would be like somebody objecting to me saying the engine isn't working because its sparkplug is dead and them asking me if I think the motive force comes from the metal box like some kind of ork

I feel like you have some metaphysical and spiritual objection to what I am saying but are not actually arguing that - I am not here to piss on your beliefs, just to make the engine start

my mind utterly separates the physical and the divine - when thinking about the meat of life, I think in machines and chemicals because I am trying to solve physical problems

if you are making some spiritual objection I simply cannot parse it - it would just go into a different part of my mind and get routed through a different flow diagram