@newt @prettygood @Pi_rat My boy was pretty happy go lucky unless an other dog showed aggression. He smashed through our window to get at one that walked past. By the time I got there to break him off he had a demon hold and had flipped it off it's feet. He was shaking it so hard he was lifting it off the pavement then smashing it down. It was terrible The good pitdogs do that. They flip the other dog off it's feet before taking a better hold.