@Brad_Rosenheim I feel what you described is because the MAGA church preachers are holding them in place. Every church service would be a nationalist culture-war pep talk. Even if they are unhappy with the new forever wars, they will not vote for the people they call 'DemonRats'. Even if they feel discouraged and don't want to vote, the MAGA church preachers are pushing them on. They come to vote wearing their church merchandise, like 'Saved, not soft', etc. Plan on them all showing up to vote.