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<blockquote style="position: relative; padding-left: 55px;"><section><a href="https://helvede.net/users/jwcph/statuses/116209752443239248">JWcph, Radicalized By Decency (jwcph@helvede.net)'s status on Thursday, 12-Mar-2026 00:45:53 JST</a><a href="https://helvede.net/@jwcph" title="jwcph@helvede.net"><img src="https://gnusocial.jp/avatar/260466-48-20251211090613.webp" width="48" height="48" alt="JWcph, Radicalized By Decency" style="position: absolute; left: 0; top: 0;">JWcph, Radicalized By Decency</a></section><article><p>RE: <a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/@dougmerritt/116206890107131056" rel="nofollow">https://mathstodon.xyz/@dougmerritt/116206890107131056</a></p><p>The fundamental fallacy is that a translator translates words. They do not. Translation translates meaning. </p><p>Which computers not only don't understand - we have no idea how to make them even if we had magical technology, because we don't know how humans do this in the first place. </p><p>I keep saying: Intelligence is not an engineering problem. </p><p><a href="https://helvede.net/tags/ai" rel="tag">#ai</a> <a href="https://helvede.net/tags/llm" rel="tag">#llm</a> <a href="https://helvede.net/tags/knowledge" rel="tag">#knowledge</a> <a href="https://helvede.net/tags/translation" rel="tag">#translation</a> <a href="https://helvede.net/tags/language" rel="tag">#language</a></p></article><footer><a rel="bookmark" href="https://gnusocial.jp/conversation/6227807#notice-12274469">In conversation</a><time datetime="2026-03-12T00:45:53+09:00" title="Thursday, 12-Mar-2026 00:45:53 JST">about 7 months ago</time> <span>from <span><a href="https://helvede.net/@jwcph/116209752443239248" rel="external" title="Sent from helvede.net via ActivityPub">helvede.net</a></span></span><a href="https://helvede.net/@jwcph/116209752443239248">permalink</a><h4>Attachments</h4><ol><li><article><header><div>No result found on File_thumbnail lookup.</div><h5><a href="https://mathstodon.xyz/@dougmerritt/116206890107131056The">DougMerritt (log😅 = 💧log😄) (@dougmerritt@mathstodon.xyz)</a></h5><div> from <span>DougMerritt (log😅 = 💧log😄)</span></div></header><div>@Gargron@mastodon.social 
In the actual literature, pre-machine translation, it was well-established that translation amounts to authorship, with the clear example of poetry -- translating poetry into a new language is absolutely an act of authorship, not a mechanical act.It may be somewhat less true of other kinds of works, but now we're talking about degree, not of kind.Admittedly LLM translation is pretty handy sometimes when there's no other translation alternative, but we must be prepared for it to fail utterly at times -- like other uses of LLMs.</div><footer></footer></article></li></ol></footer></blockquote>

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JWcph, Radicalized By Decency (jwcph@helvede.net)'s status on Thursday, 12-Mar-2026 00:45:53 JST JWcph, Radicalized By Decency
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The fundamental fallacy is that a translator translates words. They do not. Translation translates meaning.
Which computers not only don't understand - we have no idea how to make them even if we had magical technology, because we don't know how humans do this in the first place.
I keep saying: Intelligence is not an engineering problem.
#ai #llm #knowledge #translation #language
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  @Gargron@mastodon.social In the actual literature, pre-machine translation, it was well-established that translation amounts to authorship, with the clear example of poetry -- translating poetry into a new language is absolutely an act of authorship, not a mechanical act. It may be somewhat less true of other kinds of works, but now we're talking about degree, not of kind. Admittedly LLM translation is pretty handy sometimes when there's no other translation alternative, but we must be prepared for it to fail utterly at times -- like other uses of LLMs.

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