@EvolLove @Richard Been keeping an eye on this since I've had joint issues for a while. Will have to try both of these.
Oh and for milk, can you find non-homoginized milk? A local place here has started seling it and it's so much better than homo milk. Hhheh heh.
Seriously though, give it a try and see if it plays nicer with you. Or raw milk if you can get it. If non-homo milk is a step up, raw milk is like two or three steps up.