@rusty_shackleford @7666 @coolboymew

> Dont you feel like they are exploited by large corporations as a modern form.of slavery though? They are in positions where they have no recourse should they be abused.

H1B visa tech workers? Absolutely. But that's not who's being picked up by ICE.

So which corporations are you referring to that are hiring these people without legal status? Because if they are, they're doing it illegally and need to be raided. Only examples I can think of right now are meatpacking plants.

> As far as econony, they compete for low skilled jobs with citizens, driving down the value of that labor,

not really, most of the jobs they do are stuff nobody else wants to. You want to work on a farm and milk cows, spend all day in the sun picking produce? You want to hang drywall or paint all day? It's not fun and the pay isn't great for the amount of damage you do to your body. I can absolutely do this work, grew up doing all of this. But I would never ever do it unless I was absolutely desperate. The work SUCKS. Same with factory work. Been there, done that. Wanted to kill myself. At least factories used to be cool. My mom used to build phone equipment for the telco, said it was basically 8 hours of socializing with your friends while you did some soldering. Factory jobs aren't like that anymore...

> while simultaneously cometing for housing, driving up the cost.

This is a lie, they can't afford houses, can't get a mortgage, so they're not fucking with the housing market. They have almost no impact on apartment prices. They're so broke that's why they have so many people living in one unit. You can Thanos snap and remove every undocumented person from the country and it won't move the housing markets. But it will open up a bunch of derelict housing in places nobody wants to live anyway, and that will probably get demolished and sold to a giant corporation who will build something new there. Well, they would build something new there if they could afford to pay the labor which is now gone. Oh wait, that means we have to hire AMERICANS for construction jobs. Guess what happens to the prices of all housing and trades labor now? up up up up up -- we just made it worse and now have a ton of condemned properties

> If youre talking about pure gdp, i dont care about my 401k or large corpo stock prices. I care more about my fellow citizens who are struggling the most.

Nah, that's not what I'm talking about. They aren't moving your 401k or any of the stock prices of the stocks in the NASDAQ, etc.

They spend their money in your community if they're in your community. Because they have to. They probably do a better job of building a circular economy in your community than everyone else. Mostly because they have to to survive. And then you get the ones with legal status opening up grocery stores, restaurants, etc. The impact is real.

Our economy is 100% reliant on these people. This is something we let happen. We can't undo it. The only thing we can do is fix their status so they get the protections they deserve, and fix the immigration system so it doesn't happen like this ever again.

also hang some billionaires by their toes for intentionally creating this system.