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@skinnylatte I'm in the latter category. Morally I know I can't let my folks go through the wringer that is Australia's casualised for-profit aged care sector. But they were so totally disinterested in parenting children — Dad paid the child support bills and washed his hands of us — that it feels like salt in the wound having to parent them for 10-20 years. They've lived such atomistic social lives that there is no community for them to call on to support their independent living in older age. I really do think the Asian *ideal* (recognising the practice varies enormously) of ageing in place with family and community support is a preferable response.