@nerthos @georgia @shibao

If you mean John 11 (eg. verse 42), or Matthew 23 (eg. verse 23), sure. But that doesn't say anything about ascending to heaven. On the other hand John 3:13 does say that Jesus alone ascends to Heaven, and John 3:16-18 clearly indicates the necessary transaction (belief in Jesus), failure to abide by which leads to eternal torture (apparently). The provenance of those `scriptures` is another matter though.