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- Embed this notice@ryo @charliebrownau @udon All of it comes from Debian, guaranteed. Now, on top of all of those complaints, you can stack not being able to use that with doas, because you almost definitely can't. I only use Debian itself in VMs, for testing stuff, but sometimes it feels like it's fighting against what I want it to do every step of the way. It feels like it's cursed. So many minor things that don't work like in any other distribution that I'm aware of (though maybe it's like that on Ubuntu and variants, I wouldn't know, haven't used any of those in a very long time). It's not enough to just know Linux, you also have to know all the changes that they made for no reason. Annoying. And somehow people don't seem to notice it, or at least I never heard about any of that. I don't know how.
But it's fine, it's not like the rest of computing isn't a giant mountain of terrible design choices as well. Devuan is still one of the best distributions (well, one of the few usable ones), and that stuff is all Debian's fault. Not a problem on BSD, though.