@furgar@noagendasocial.com yeah, but I got an email from my VPN host and they shut it off until I responded.  That was a few moths ago. I have cooler ways to get what I want now. Oh and I still use BitTorrent for software downloads too, legal ones. I use Linux and the BSD's, so there's no reason to pirate those. I'm always checking out new OSes on different boxes. BitTorrent is still relevant, with lots of potential, besides the obvious ones. Oh, one more thing, I've used both Nord and ExpressVPN and they never sent me any narc emails and both those services were good but Nord was cheaper.