@SoyMagnus I did read it; it's of interest and was pretty short. I don't think the journos are complaining on principled grounds: they are not interested in stopping the censorship of some opinions or information, they're just upset that the janny came for them this time. weliveinaworld.jpg
@p I I don't know if you read the article but it sounds like he didn't just target people who limed the elonjet but also a lot of peoe who he didn't like. Its a sad world when I agree with journos on something but this is bound to create a vacuum. On a good note, I'll be able to spawn trap all the new journos & gore post them back into their safe spaces ha
I don't think this'll affect Twitter much, but we'll see if some new journo instances arrive. Looks like there was a very small spike in journa.host's user count: http://demo.fedilist.com/instance/journa.host
> Of course the journos will claim that wasn't what they were doing and it's hard to prove intent without hard evidence. (at least in a court of law)
Yeah, but you can establish intent, there are bars for it, depending on the crime; I am more shaky on civil suits but the burden of proof is much lower for those. Why do you say that, like are they threatening to sue?
> It really wouldn't surprise me if they did it to get themselves banned on purpose and use it as ammo to smear Elon as well as remove themselves from the platform before they got banned for something else that would be far harder to turn into a virtue signal.
Reasonable. That's happened on FSE a lot of times.
@p@freespeechextremist.com@SoyMagnus@freespeechextremist.com then there's providing information as a means to get someone to do somethingYeah, I definitely think that's what it was. Of course the journos will claim that wasn't what they were doing and it's hard to prove intent without hard evidence. (at least in a court of law) But this definitely looks like bad faith to anyone who's paying attention.
It really wouldn't surprise me if they did it to get themselves banned on purpose and use it as ammo to smear Elon as well as remove themselves from the platform before they got banned for something else that would be far harder to turn into a virtue signal.
@shadowferret@SoyMagnus Well, there's doxxing, but airplanes broadcast this information. They're required to, by federal statute in the US and also by international agreements around commercial and private flights. The information itself is inert, but remember Snow's "trannylist" and why it got scrubbed from FSE? So there's providing information and then there's providing information as a means to get someone to do something, and apparently someone jumped on Musk's car recently, I can see that making the information sensitive so efforts to provide it would have trouble looking like good faith.
@p@freespeechextremist.com@SoyMagnus@freespeechextremist.com I would agree with that assessment. I think that most of the journos are posting the elonjet stuff as free speech and getting banned to complain that Elon isn't sticking to his principles. Yet doxxing is one of the things that twitter doesn't allow anyway, so I would consider it like this... Elon is about free speech up until it ends up either his or his family's lives in jeopardy. In all honesty, that's pretty much what I would expect unless a person is literally willing to die on that hill.