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   digdeeper@mastodon.honeypot.im's status on Friday, 19-Aug-2022 15:46:37 JST digdeeper

   KDE Plasma loads for 70 seconds on a laptop with 4 GB RAM and a 2.4 GHz processor. Xfce 4.12 takes 7 seconds.

   Measured from startx command up until menus become usable.

   Windows is probably worse, so no wonder normies get all the newest hardware.

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     寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 20-Aug-2022 05:31:53 JST 寮

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     • Sprinkled Nights
     @digdeeper @Sprinklednights Non-KDE replacement would be GIMP for illustrations, and Aseprite for pixel art, though for manga anything good is lacking.
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     digdeeper@mastodon.honeypot.im's status on Saturday, 20-Aug-2022 05:31:54 JST digdeeper

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     @Sprinklednights Some programs are written specifically for KDE, but if you can find replacements (I think the only ones without are like, Krita and Kolourpaint, maybe), then yeah, it's nothing.

     Actually, Slackware switching from KDE 3 to 4 made me seek another distro then (this was somewhere in 2008). That was before I knew how to, like, just install all the packages I want myself etc. But I knew enough to drop a trash DE when I saw it. And KDE 5 is even worse.

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     Sprinkled Nights (sprinklednights@social.anoxinon.de)'s status on Saturday, 20-Aug-2022 05:32:03 JST Sprinkled Nights

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     @digdeeper Microsoft Windows was so resource heavy that it broke, so I had to fresh install Windows again.

     I personally don't understand the benefits of KDE Plasma. It is bloated with features that you never want, the menus are freaking ugly and it took more RAM than Xfce 4.16 ever did. I can't tell myself to use KDE Plasma for more than two days.

     Sure Xfce has flaws too, but I felt less overwhelmed by the flaws of Xfce than the flaws on KDE Plasma.

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     Udon (udon@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Saturday, 20-Aug-2022 11:41:16 JST Udon

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     @digdeeper @keith
     Just buy a new computer. It is not that hard.
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     digdeeper@mastodon.honeypot.im's status on Saturday, 20-Aug-2022 11:41:17 JST digdeeper

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     • 〜キースDX：Fediverseで同性愛の狼とセックスしてる版！

     @keith

     I don't have anything residual, this KDE installation is completely new. And I even disabled compositor etc.

     What you think is "quite low" won't be the same for someone with old hardware. So, my test seems to show that new DEs are unusable for someone with old hardware.

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     〜キースDX：Fediverseで同性愛の狼とセックスしてる版！ (keith@friendica.keithhacks.cyou)'s status on Saturday, 20-Aug-2022 11:41:26 JST 〜キースDX：Fediverseで同性愛の狼とセックスしてる版！

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     @digdeeper I don't think it's that KDE is super resource intensive, though - the CPU usage and RAM usage stay quite low. Plus, my desktop computer, which also runs Gentoo and is quite powerful, but has residual bits of old KDE Neon in ~/.config, takes a lot longer to start up.
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     digdeeper@mastodon.honeypot.im's status on Saturday, 20-Aug-2022 11:41:28 JST digdeeper

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     • 〜キースDX：Fediverseで同性愛の狼とセックスしてる版！

     @keith Well of course, if it's "significantly more powerful", it will load faster. That's the whole point of the test.

     Now try the same with xfce 4.12.

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     〜キースDX：Fediverseで同性愛の狼とセックスしてる版！ (keith@friendica.keithhacks.cyou)'s status on Saturday, 20-Aug-2022 11:41:29 JST 〜キースDX：Fediverseで同性愛の狼とセックスしてる版！

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     @digdeeper It takes way less depending on what exactly you have enabled and how fucked-up your configs are. My laptop running Gentoo, which admittedly is significantly more powerful, only takes a few seconds to boot into KDE.
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     Sprinkled Nights (sprinklednights@social.anoxinon.de)'s status on Saturday, 20-Aug-2022 11:42:22 JST Sprinkled Nights

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     @digdeeper Besides that KDE Plasma is apparently "spyware" because of KUserFeedback...

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