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   Scott M. Stolz (scott@scottstolz.com)'s status on Friday, 09-Dec-2022 20:34:43 JST Scott M. Stolz
   In a way, we are going back to how the internet used to be. We started with things like Usenet and email discussion lists. Discussions were federated via email and you did not have to log into any particular website. Anyone with an email address could participate, and admins moderated the groups individually.
   
   Fast forward to today, and we have things like Hubzilla, Mastodon, and ActivityPub. And anyone can participate by creating a federated social media account, and admins of each instance moderate their own instance. Just like the old days, except with better technology.
   
   So, in a way, we have gone full circle. Younger people may not remember the days before Facebook, Twitter, Friendster, Google Plus, Vine, etc., but some of us do. As long as these networks federate, I think decentralized social media will be just fine.
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     agentcasey (agentcasey@strm.natehiggers.online)'s status on Friday, 09-Dec-2022 20:34:34 JST agentcasey

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     I think that, the more one uses Hubzilla, the more one realises, more efficient ways to use it. Just like doing anything that one enjoys doing, one must do it often enough, until it becomes second nature. So, unless one is about to die soon, suddenly, there is an inordinate amount of time to learn, how Hubzilla works just by using it often, many times per day. Prove me wrong.
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     agentcasey (agentcasey@strm.natehiggers.online)'s status on Friday, 09-Dec-2022 21:27:45 JST agentcasey

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     Well, this is the attitude of a new user. I'm relatively new to Hubzilla and streams. I work my way through it and I encourage others to do the same. It's good that people are able to provide assistance when the can but  it's clear that trial and error will yield results every time.
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     agentcasey (agentcasey@strm.natehiggers.online)'s status on Friday, 09-Dec-2022 21:55:11 JST agentcasey

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     The daunting task of learning any new task, skill or program depends on many variables.  When I started using Hubzilla I wasn't impressed. I thought the user interface was outdated and I approached it with scepticism. However once I started using it I realised both its limitations and mine. I soon realised that those limitations were only singular, the limitations were all mine. For years I wanted to set up my own hub but I didn't know the right places to look at the time. I imagined that it would be an almost impossible task.  Eventually, while searching around in my cloned git repository, I found .homeinstall and I realised that was a huge part of the documentation that I needed to start.
     
     I learned about Hubzilla, perhaps, only a year and a half ago. I never knew that Zap or Streams even existed until perhaps two months ago maybe a little more. Now, I've installed all of them multiple times on multiple machines and the more I work with it, the more I learn. Obviously, I don't understand everything that I can do with them but my interest in the subject had nothing to do with how simple or hard it was to learn. I saw a product, with potential and I fell for it.  As much as people, for whatever reasons, need  others to accept the same things that they like because it's for the right reasons, people will find their way to where they fit in.  I stopped using Microsoft Windows and Apple computers to use Linux in 1998 and back then it was an uphill battle getting anything to work intuitively. I and many others stuck with it and many people avoided it. No amount of wishing people will adopt the technology that you know is better, is going to get them to do so, if they're not interested enough to explore. People do the things that they're most interested in, autonomously. If they quit, it's because they've given up.
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     agentcasey (agentcasey@strm.natehiggers.online)'s status on Friday, 09-Dec-2022 22:36:43 JST agentcasey

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     @Crow do you somehow imagine that by disliking my comments, that they'll be erased from everyone's consciousness?  I'm going to continue to use Hubzilla and Streams for as long as I keep finding them interesting and fun. I don't care who else loves them or uses them. It will have no effect on me whatsoever. I know good products when I see them and use them. Horses aren't the only beings that can be led to water and not be forced to drink.  I didn't need anyone pointing me towards Hubzilla, maybe Hubzilla found me. It's a brilliant product and people either use it or use whatever they please. My choice is evident. I don't require anyone's acceptance of the products and services that I find useful. The majority of people don't use Linux or Hubzilla. One can speculate as to the many reasons why. Perhaps, most people are just very smart.