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    Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Friday, 09-Dec-2022 12:28:29 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber Christine Lemmer-Webber
    • The Spritely Institute

    at some point maybe it would be worth doing a fediverse thread breakdown of the ideas in ocappub https://gitlab.com/spritely/ocappub/blob/master/README.org and how the work has continued over at @spritelyinst because everything I wrote in 2019 is now super, incredibly relevant

    (I am anticipating a crash/collapse of the fediverse in its current form at a not too distant future; hopefully we'll have more answers ready by then, but this is a multi-year project)

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      Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Friday, 09-Dec-2022 12:28:26 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber Christine Lemmer-Webber
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      the blocklist/allowlist path for the fediverse is a band-aid. it's a doomed approach to moderation, and it always converges on centralization as it continues to run. I think the doc explains why that is pretty clearly.

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      Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Friday, 09-Dec-2022 12:28:27 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber Christine Lemmer-Webber
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      • The Spritely Institute

      in particular, the "Nation-State'ification of the Fediverse" section has turned out to be SUPER ON POINT

      but also the discussion of how neo-fascists co-opt decentralization language while having no real interest in dispersing authority, the intro to ocaps, etc

      but again, I stopped writing because I found it was hard to explain things to people... and demo'ing is better. In the meanwhile, the doc does do a good job of explaining the problem space that the @spritelyinst is solving.

      HOWEVER, this is not to say we are "fixing ActivityPub" in two ways:

      - the ideas can eventually be ported back to ActivityPub, the spec. however if the heavily-mastodon-flavored version of ActivityPub (MastoPub?) prevails I'm not sure it can be upended
      - our main focus is on technical pieces built on OCapN, but activitypub backfill has been long planned. it's in the future though. it's not the critical path.

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      Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@octodon.social)'s status on Friday, 09-Dec-2022 12:28:28 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber Christine Lemmer-Webber
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      in the meanwhile the most important thing to do is to keep doing the work, because explaining things isn't as powerful as demonstrating them https://dustycloud.org/blog/if-you-cant-tell-people-anything/

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