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Udon (udon@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-2022 05:12:47 JST Udon It is really, really annoying when you look for desktop client, it's all Electron apps. Can't they stop calling them "desktop clients"? ??? - 寮 likes this.
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Charliebrownau (charliebrownau@pieville.net)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-2022 06:25:28 JST Charliebrownau @udon Cant we just outright ban
Electron
Dotnet
Java
Jewscript
Python
Soyd/pulseaudio/waylandTime to go back making code with
Plain C
pascal
Basic
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Udon (udon@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-2022 06:25:28 JST Udon @charliebrownau
I don't mind them using Electron...maybe... but I hope they don't claim it's a "desktop client". It contaminates the search results so much. -
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Charliebrownau (charliebrownau@pieville.net)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-2022 06:43:16 JST Charliebrownau @udon Same as all these mobile 'apps'
its just a wrapper for a website
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Udon (udon@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-2022 06:43:16 JST Udon @charliebrownau
I'm not familiar with mobile 'apps' but Electron literally phones home to Google, but nobody cares and Electron insanity is spreading like wildfire. There is even text editor built with Electron (like Atom), and of course it phones home too.寮 and Eric Shields | ?assTransitKrow like this. -
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Eric Shields | ?assTransitKrow (masstransitkrow@federation.ninetiesmysteri.es)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-2022 06:45:01 JST Eric Shields | ?assTransitKrow @udon @charliebrownau not if Google can't resolve on your network -
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Udon (udon@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-2022 06:48:18 JST Udon @masstransitkrow @charliebrownau
Of course we can just block everything ourselves, but I mean how are people ok with that?Eric Shields | ?assTransitKrow likes this. -
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寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-2022 07:06:07 JST 寮 @udon Electron is just a glorified headerless Chromium browser instance limited to just one soyte.
And just like on mobile, it makes UI consistency even worse than it already was.
GTK and Qt were already too different from each other, but at least they kind of worked towards each other over the past decade, because the gap between them was way wider back in the 2000's (and running Qt apps Gnome or GTK apps in KDE was seen as fitting as 1 black guy within a group of white guys).
But then Electron came to make things more inconsistent again.ぐぬ管 (GNU social JP管理人) likes this. -
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Eric Shields | ?assTransitKrow (masstransitkrow@federation.ninetiesmysteri.es)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-2022 07:06:51 JST Eric Shields | ?assTransitKrow @udon @charliebrownau they likely won't be. It would literally break the internet, but it's the only way to prevent the phoning home.
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寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-2022 07:11:20 JST 寮 @udon @charliebrownau Electron is a product of soydevs on mobile who wanted to spread their estrogen on desktop too.
Just look at React Native for example, a JS framework for mobile.
Then there's the regular React for the web, and you only need to wrap it around in Electron, and you can use it for desktop as well.
And Electron, GTK 3, and current year Qt is exactly the reason that made me love TUI apps more.ぐぬ管 (GNU social JP管理人) likes this.ぐぬ管 (GNU social JP管理人) repeated this. -
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寮 (ryo@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-2022 07:12:31 JST 寮 @udon @masstransitkrow @charliebrownau
> how are people ok with that?
Convenience.
It's always convenience that makes them voluntarily build a prison around themselves.Udon and Eric Shields | ?assTransitKrow like this. -
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Charliebrownau (charliebrownau@pieville.net)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-2022 19:56:11 JST Charliebrownau Ive gone back to LXDE on my chromebook and XFCE classic on my ryzen using Devuan
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Charliebrownau (charliebrownau@pieville.net)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-2022 20:46:55 JST Charliebrownau @udon I still use leafpad
Thats my text editor of choice
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Udon (udon@social.076.ne.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Aug-2022 20:46:55 JST Udon @charliebrownau
Leafpad is comfy. Geany is also nice. -
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Charliebrownau (charliebrownau@pieville.net)'s status on Thursday, 18-Aug-2022 14:59:12 JST Charliebrownau @udon You cant take my leafpad away from me (hugs it tight)
mine mine mine mine mine mine
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