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   tante (tante@tldr.nettime.org)'s status on Saturday, 05-Sep-2026 19:30:30 JST tante

   RE: https://mastodon.social/@eff/117215319335459732

   The EFF is way less on your side than you think. It's mostly a libertarian/tech corporation lobbying group.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 05-Sep-2026 20:29:27 JST Rich Felker

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     • Walter van Holst

     @whvholst @tante It is not transformative. You are repeating industry talking point that's completely out of line with the legal standard for transformative that requires it be a creative use for a completely different purpose and not competing with or trying to supersede the copied work. Slop fails every single one of those tests.

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     Walter van Holst (whvholst@eupolicy.social)'s status on Saturday, 05-Sep-2026 20:29:29 JST Walter van Holst

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     @tante The hard fact is that the statistical destillation process what some are calling training of LLMs is at the least partially transformative when it comes to copyright. There is precedent for that with concordances and the likes. The equally inconvenient fact is also that some of the inputs survive that process sufficiently unscathed that the result is blatant copyright infringement.

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     Marta Threadbare (cygnathreadbare@retro.pizza)'s status on Saturday, 05-Sep-2026 20:31:50 JST Marta Threadbare

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     @tante i'll never forget how they sided with kiwifarms because a nebulous concept of free speech (that only bullies seem to deserve, but not all the people they've silenced or worse) is more important for them than queer and neurodivergent lives.

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     Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Saturday, 05-Sep-2026 20:49:44 JST Rich Felker

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     • Walter van Holst

     @whvholst @tante AI is a mechanical derivation for a use whose whole purpose is displacement of the original authors' works to avoid the need to pay them and to eliminate labor's right to say no to serving capital owners.