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Timnit Gebru (she/her). (timnitgebru@dair-community.social)'s status on Saturday, 22-Aug-2026 01:36:36 JST Timnit Gebru (she/her).

Well, well, well, I KNEW that the hounding of Arday was gonna get connected back to the TESCREAL bozos somehow. See this "paper" by the guy who hired Cofnas at Ghent University.
Reminder "dysgenic" is the opposite of "eugenic," they mean Black people and other undesirables reproducing too much.
Reminder, the L in TESCREAL is for "longtermism."
Read more at https://dair-institute.org/projects/tescreal/
These are also the people pushing generative AI down your throats.
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1. The dysgenics objection to longtermism Bouke de Vriesa, b, 1 ª Department of Philosophy, Ghent University, Belgium b Department of Philosophy, University of Zurich, Zurich, Switzerland Check for updates ARTICLE INFO Longtermism Intelligence Fetic Moral Status Future generations ABSTRACT - Strong longtermism maintains that how we should act morally is determined almost entirely by the expected effects on the welfare of our descendants existing thousands if not millions of years into the future, who might include both other humans and any artificial agents with a comparable or higher moral status that we end up creating. It is based on three key assumptions: (i) that our descendants will have a moral status that is at least as high as ours and therefore should not have their welfare discounted by us; (ii) that there is a good chance that these individuals will vastly outnumber us; and (iii) that we can do things here and now that can be expected to positively shape the long-term trajectory of humanity. The aim of this contribution is to suggest that authors such as Will MacAskill and Hilary Greaves have been too optimistic about all these assumptions as a result of having ignored evidence that the populations of post-industrial countries are becoming less intelligent due mostly to the negative relationship that has emerged within these societies between intelligence and fertility and to the proclivity of intelligent people to delay parenthood.
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  Niels Abildgaard (nielsa@mas.to)'s status on Saturday, 22-Aug-2026 01:36:34 JST Niels Abildgaard
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  @timnitGebru That is one of the wildest abstracts I have ever read. Elsevier straight up publishing fash propaganda?? It's the weak men/weak civilization strong men/strong civilization take on longtermism??
  
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  Thorium (thorium@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Saturday, 22-Aug-2026 01:36:47 JST Thorium
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  @timnitGebru Elsevier was already bad, but they took it to a whole new level by publishing this garbage.
  
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  FoolishOwl (foolishowl@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 24-Aug-2026 06:05:52 JST FoolishOwl
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  @timnitGebru Once in high school, in a science class, I made some argument about dysgenics I'd picked up from a science fiction short story. The teacher was so impressed she announced she was giving me extra credit.
  Later I read a history textbook and saw a Nazi propaganda poster making the same argument, and I was horrified that I'd believed it.
  I feel I can forgive myself only on the condition I never let myself forget it.
  Years later it occurred to me to question why the teacher was so eager to endorse it.
  This idea has been part of US culture for a long time, just hiding below the surface for a while.
  
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