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   Håkan Geijer (hakan_geijer@kolektiva.social)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Jul-2026 17:39:24 JST Håkan Geijer

   *trolley problem is presented*

   The least intellectually curious person on the planet: Well I would simply conceive of a universe where no harms happen and everyone survives unscathed rather than grapple with philosophical uncertainty or moral complexity.

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     Håkan Geijer (hakan_geijer@kolektiva.social)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Jul-2026 19:40:13 JST Håkan Geijer

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     • Niels Abildgaard

     @nielsa this is like saying triage at hospitals gets you effective altruism, which no it does not

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     Niels Abildgaard (nielsa@mas.to)'s status on Tuesday, 28-Jul-2026 19:40:16 JST Niels Abildgaard

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     @hakan_geijer idk, taking the trolley problem seriously as philosophy very quickly gets you to effective altruism

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     Håkan Geijer (hakan_geijer@kolektiva.social)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 00:44:06 JST Håkan Geijer

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     • Niels Abildgaard

     @nielsa Sometimes constraints you wish weren't there are imposed on you and you have to make complex life or death choices. Like in the trolley problem. Like with triage.

     Triage is (generally) meant to maximize the number of lives saved. Like the trolley problem hints at.

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     Niels Abildgaard (nielsa@mas.to)'s status on Wednesday, 29-Jul-2026 00:44:07 JST Niels Abildgaard

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     @hakan_geijer i don't really think the trolley problem is like a triage, exactly because it's stripped off all the mess and context that makes up reality (even the few triage examples I've seen in medical text books have more details). Am I missing something here?