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   T man :sex: :puffgiga: :puffpowerroll: (theorytoe@ak.kyaruc.moe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jul-2026 16:18:26 JST T man :sex: :puffgiga: :puffpowerroll:
   so for the ai-adjacent folk here are you paying for subscriptions? running models locally? or running models on a remote node?
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     T man :sex: :puffgiga: :puffpowerroll: (theorytoe@ak.kyaruc.moe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jul-2026 16:29:46 JST T man :sex: :puffgiga: :puffpowerroll:

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     @VD15 ok
     
     I was looking into some of the stats required to run these models (mainly glm) and holy shit its a lot
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     :VD15_0::VD15_1::VD15_2::VD15_3::VD15_4::VD15_5::VD15_6::VD15_7: (vd15@pl.valkyrie.world)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jul-2026 16:29:48 JST :VD15_0::VD15_1::VD15_2::VD15_3::VD15_4::VD15_5::VD15_6::VD15_7:

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     @theorytoe I used to run locally until torch dropped support for the cards I was using and I couldn't be fucked having a jet engine under my desk anymore. I'm on a pay-as-you-go plan for API access now but I still only use open weight models

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     Harblinger (harblinger@wizard.casa)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jul-2026 16:32:12 JST Harblinger

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     These days I'm juggling 3 lowest tier subscriptions (z.ai for glm, gpt and claude)
     I was an idiot for a month paying per token through openrouter because I was paranoid about using claude code/codex harnesses (you can use pi.dev with z.ai at least)

     I feel like I'm a noob still, totally missed the first Fable drop because I hadn't even figured out I should be using claude code. I was considering signing up for a 4th sub with MiniMax to check out M3. GLM-5.2 has been surprisingly good with what I've thrown at it so far, tempted to try it on more serious stuff, but it eats usage like crazy compared to the others

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     Blurry Moon (sun@shitposter.world)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jul-2026 16:36:11 JST Blurry Moon

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     @VD15 @theorytoe I have 256GB of unified RAM and I can't run the newest fucking models
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     :VD15_0::VD15_1::VD15_2::VD15_3::VD15_4::VD15_5::VD15_6::VD15_7: (vd15@pl.valkyrie.world)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jul-2026 16:36:13 JST :VD15_0::VD15_1::VD15_2::VD15_3::VD15_4::VD15_5::VD15_6::VD15_7:

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     @theorytoe Yeah, I thought 72GB of VRAM was a lot back when llama was all the rage and then deepseek came out and I was like HOW MUCH!?

     I ain't willing to spend the equivalent of a new car on GPUs rn

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     T man :sex: :puffgiga: :puffpowerroll: (theorytoe@ak.kyaruc.moe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jul-2026 16:39:05 JST T man :sex: :puffgiga: :puffpowerroll:

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     ok, ive been looking into perhaps either zai with glm or claude, though probably only one since im probably gonna use it sparsely
     
     also how does something like pi.dev compare to something like opencode
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     Suzu (suzu@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jul-2026 16:40:22 JST Suzu

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     @theorytoe both.
     
     I am running local models for image gen, roleplay (with silly tavern) and even an AI companion with a LLM.
     
     However, due to the limitations of the shit I can run locally (I'm limited to a 30B MoE model as a LLM with my current hardware, which is not very smart), I also pay for Claude to help me with more convoluted shit.
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     T man :sex: :puffgiga: :puffpowerroll: (theorytoe@ak.kyaruc.moe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jul-2026 16:59:14 JST T man :sex: :puffgiga: :puffpowerroll:

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     @harblinger
     ok so the tab thing is just a swap between a 'plan' and 'build' mode (i assume plan has no write access while build does)
     also seems to have free models or something (what ive been using, some deepseek type shit)
     
     I decided to do a test project with it and it vomited out somewhat not awful rubbish
     https://git.kyaruc.moe/r/mndbt
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     Harblinger (harblinger@wizard.casa)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jul-2026 16:59:15 JST Harblinger

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     just from the quickest skim of opencode (havent tried it) I'd say the difference is pi.dev is barebones and you can add extensions as you please, I saw this in the opencode readme:
     >OpenCode includes two built-in agents you can switch between with the Tab key.
     so it sounds like it's just more opinionated on what works well, maybe I'll try it sometime since I sort of fell into that pattern in the past: discussion and writing a SPEC.md and then passing it off for implementation

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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jul-2026 17:27:04 JST lainy

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     @harblinger @Merc this is literally me i'm so exhausted
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     Harblinger (harblinger@wizard.casa)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jul-2026 17:27:05 JST Harblinger

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     don't go to bed

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     MercurialBlack (merc@freerobuxextremist.com)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jul-2026 17:27:11 JST MercurialBlack

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     @theorytoe @harblinger go to bed
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     @theorytoe @harblinger You can add custom agents and skill sets to opencode. It's sorta compatible with stuff that's made for claude code (which is the most popular), but it's not a drop-in

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     T man :sex: :puffgiga: :puffpowerroll: (theorytoe@ak.kyaruc.moe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Jul-2026 17:56:29 JST T man :sex: :puffgiga: :puffpowerroll:

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     @harblinger @Merc
     im actually fixing issues in other projects that I dont have enough confidence in the demon machine to touch (ie the git server)