Amir E. Aharoni
1: "Moldova Sign Language"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldova_Sign_Language
I didn't really want to create it, actually. I don't know this language, and I know almost nothing about it. I created it because this name redirected to the article "Russian Sign Language", which have the (possibly) wrong impression that they are the same language. There are barely any sources about it, but the few that I did find say that this may *or may not* be true.
Evan Prodromou
@aharoni I thought stubs were grounds for summary execution in today's Wikipedia.
Amir E. Aharoni
I wanted to just delete the redirect, but after a little discussion with a user who has been maintaining a huge number of articles about languages for many years, we agreed that it's better to write a stub than to have a red link.
I really hope that someone improves it, and more than it is a question of how good Wikipedia is, it's a question of how well is the deaf community in Moldova researched. Every deaf community deserves attention from researchers.
Evan Prodromou
@aharoni I love stubs. I wish English Wikipedia were more tolerant of a helpful little mess.
Amir E. Aharoni
@evan So far, I'm alive, not blocked and not desysopped, and the article is not speedily deleted. It is, however, marked with the "one source" issue template, which is a tad ugly, but totally correct.
And hey, I wanted to delete the redirect and another experienced user said that it's better to make a stub, so why would I argue.
(Also, there are articles about it in three other languages, but they don't add a lot of information.)
Evan Prodromou
@aharoni I think it's a bad practice to delete stubs instead of improving them. It results in net less information for the world, and it also taints the topic, making it harder to create a new page later. A wiki page is a collaborative project, not a finished product.
Anyway, thanks for contributing to the sum of all human knowledge.
Amir E. Aharoni
@evan I don't disagree, as long as it actually tells something verifiable and not totally trivial. Although in some cases, a red link would perhaps be better. In this specific case, it's not just a matter of how deep or verifiable the article is, but a bit of responsibility towards the rest of the web: some websites, most notably ISO 639-3 own website, rely on the English Wikipedia to have *some* valid page for every ISO 639-3 language code. Just deleting it would break that unofficial promise.
Evan Prodromou
@aharoni ro: doesn't seem to have a dedicated page:
Evan Prodromou
@aharoni what was the topic of your article?
Amir E. Aharoni
I am one of the 400 or so people who contributed an article to that encyclopedia, so there's a tiny COI there, but honestly, the publisher didn't even pay me (unless you count the discount coupon, which I never used), and they certainly didn't ask me to do PR for them. Besides, it was published more than ten years ago. It just kind of surprised me that there was no article about this rather important work.
Amir E. Aharoni
The other article I created today is about the "Encyclopedia of Hebrew Language and Linguistics", which I mentioned here in this microblog a few days ago:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encyclopedia_of_Hebrew_Language_and_Linguistics
Evan Prodromou
@aharoni oh, that's really interesting!
I had assumed it would be something wiki-related. I know that for many languages, Wikipedia and other wikis have had a direct effect on language study and even practice. I wonder to what extent that has happened with Hebrew.
Amir E. Aharoni
@evan "Vocalization of Modern Hebrew"
https://archive.org/details/encyclopediaofhe0003unse/page/946/mode/2up
(You should be able to "borrow" it from the Internet Archive.)
I also presented a talk about it at Wikimania 2014:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et4bFmql7dw&t=493s
Evan Prodromou
@aharoni if you can, you must.
Amir E. Aharoni
@evan I started writing that article in 2009, when Wikipedia was already well-known, but much younger, and my experience with it was even smaller. Since then, at least one book Hebrew on the Internet was published, and it has a chapter about Wikipedia, for which the author, who happens to be a friend in real life, consulted with me :)
There were also numerous other academic articles about it.
Maybe I should do something more serious about it myself someday...
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