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   Sternritter-C (sternritter-c@nekosat.work)'s status on Sunday, 31-May-2026 15:58:33 JST Sternritter-C
   So I couldn't install gentoo because gentoo-kernel-bin decided to fail on me so I will go with base artix install I will try to learn gentoo eventually I just wonder how do I get pleroma on artix since I'm gonna give that a go
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 31-May-2026 15:58:32 JST lainy

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     • March 16th, The Hyperboreatkeshiator
     @HatkeshiatorTND @Sternritter-C there's nothing too special about arch when it comes to this. just install elixir and either compile your own release or just run directly from source. or use docker/podman, that's what i mostly do by now.
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     March 16th, The Hyperboreatkeshiator (hatkeshiatortnd@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-May-2026 15:58:33 JST March 16th, The Hyperboreatkeshiator

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     @Sternritter-C cc @lain
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 31-May-2026 16:08:01 JST lainy

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     • March 16th, The Hyperboreatkeshiator
     @phnt @HatkeshiatorTND @Sternritter-C sounds like podman it is, then
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Sunday, 31-May-2026 16:08:02 JST Phantasm

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     • March 16th, The Hyperboreatkeshiator

     @lain @HatkeshiatorTND @Sternritter-C Also:

     I just wonder how do I get pleroma on artix since I'm gonna give that a go

     Please don't unless you really know what you are doing. By running a Pleroma instance on Arch you are one bad system update from corrupting your database on a major version Postgres update.

     At least read this, especially the upgrading Postgres part, and put all postgres packages into IgnorePkg in /etc/pacman.conf so that a system update won't update them.

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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 31-May-2026 16:22:27 JST lainy

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     • March 16th, The Hyperboreatkeshiator
     @phnt @HatkeshiatorTND @Sternritter-C yeah, i meant a full podman setup, with postgres inside as well
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Sunday, 31-May-2026 16:22:28 JST Phantasm

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     • March 16th, The Hyperboreatkeshiator

     @lain @HatkeshiatorTND @Sternritter-C That doesn't bundle a postgres install as a container either. I don't know why Arch is so adamant about not making version locked packages for major Postgres versions.

     Pleroma works fine, but I don't want to see another "yay, a postgres update." turn into a "sorry, I destroyed the database and don't have a backup. " like a year ago.

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     Sternritter-C (sternritter-c@nekosat.work)'s status on Sunday, 31-May-2026 17:31:24 JST Sternritter-C

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     @bronze I will do that thank you
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 31-May-2026 17:31:24 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     @Sternritter-C @bronze >docker
     Don't hate your self a do docker, thank you.
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     bronze (bronze@pl.kitsunemimi.club)'s status on Sunday, 31-May-2026 17:31:25 JST bronze

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     @Sternritter-C damn shame
     artix is a good choice for a pleroma server though
     consider putting it in a docker container like how I do it
     https://kitsunemimi.club/git/bronze/docker-pleroma
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jun-2026 06:53:01 JST Phantasm

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     • March 16th, The Hyperboreatkeshiator
     • Phobos

     @Phobos @HatkeshiatorTND @lain @Sternritter-C Postgres will happily nuke your database if you upgrade to a newer major version without dump/restoring it or going through pg_upgrade.

     The warning on the wiki is there for a reason and there's a reason why most distros shipping multiple version have some script to automate upgrading between major versions.

     And fixing such damaged database while not impossible requires deep understating of how Postgres internally stores data. It's not as simple as "oops, I updated Postgres without pg_upgrade and restarted it already. I'll just downgrade and restart it again."

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     Phobos (phobos@eientei.org)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jun-2026 06:53:03 JST Phobos

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     • March 16th, The Hyperboreatkeshiator
     @phnt @HatkeshiatorTND @lain @Sternritter-C It's dead simple to just clone the source for the package and maintain that oneself though. I doubt there's all that many who would actually need to care about major version update issues, and those that do ought to be able to maintain a PKGBUILD for it themselves.
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     ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jun-2026 07:24:09 JST ✙ dcc :pedomustdie: :phear_slackware:

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     • Phantasm
     @phnt @Sternritter-C @bronze By source is the main install method....
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jun-2026 07:24:10 JST Phantasm

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     @dcc @Sternritter-C @bronze Eventually that will be the main Pleroma install method anyway. OTP builds are hard to maintain and source installs while fine get too difficult for newbies thanks to Debian et al having too old versions.

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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jun-2026 12:59:30 JST Johnny Peligro

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     • March 16th, The Hyperboreatkeshiator
     @lain @HatkeshiatorTND @Sternritter-C if you dont run pleroma on gentoo it will run slower and explode
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jun-2026 12:59:30 JST lainy

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     • March 16th, The Hyperboreatkeshiator
     @mischievoustomato @HatkeshiatorTND @Sternritter-C like in the movie Speed??
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Jun-2026 13:52:02 JST lainy

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     • March 16th, The Hyperboreatkeshiator
     • Phobos
     @phnt @HatkeshiatorTND @Phobos @Sternritter-C btw i wrote some code to make running neondb as a selfhoster easier, it's postgres but you get cheap branching and time travel: https://github.com/lambadalambda/neon-selfhost