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   Poppy (Back from tha dead) :neofox_flag_trans: (radmin@limepeeps.perchinup.top)'s status on Saturday, 23-May-2026 10:32:40 JST Poppy (Back from tha dead) :neofox_flag_trans:

   Ngl, I dunno why my Macbook Air has been feeling good to use even with its seriously anemic 4GB of RAM. I know it still hitches a bit every now and then, and that I mainly use it for portable web browsing and note-taking (aka fairly light), but I thought that 8GB was the new minimum for the longest time. Yet, it's carried along with both that and much heavier multitasking and even Blender 3D modeling. Maybe 4GB is really not enough with the much more bloated Windows 11, tho :drgn_think:

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 23-May-2026 10:32:38 JST iced depresso

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     @radmin apple is always anemic with RAM, especially with their frameworks being on the hungrier side (smalltalk-style stuff with message passing, compositors running all the time etc), but the unices also tended toward better page management and apple standardized on ram compression.
     
     you can get linux to do it too but you have to go ask the kernel to, and then there's tuning as to how many pages it runs zstd on and such. i think you can choose lz4 or zstd?
     
     although rolz would be better than zstd, not up to me, so meh.
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Saturday, 23-May-2026 10:38:28 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @icedquinn @radmin zswap + zstd + syscl tuning does a lot of good for machine performance fr
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 23-May-2026 10:38:28 JST iced depresso

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     • Johnny Peligro
     @mischievoustomato @radmin i've no idea what apple sets it to. just that a couple years ago they enabled it by default.
     
     8gb is legitimately still a lot of memory if you aren't outright wasting it. the only reason 16gb on the travel machine feels bad is AI is ram hungry (which is also just an argument to wasting it) and everything runs in electron
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 23-May-2026 10:42:30 JST iced depresso

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     • Johnny Peligro
     @mischievoustomato @radmin right more pages compresses better, but then it has to actually pack the load so it loses flexibility on paging. afaik
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Saturday, 23-May-2026 10:42:31 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @icedquinn @radmin apple uses wkdm which is 1:2. with zstd+zsmalloc on linux, you can reach 1:3-5 and even higher