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    Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 06-Apr-2026 17:48:57 JST Aral Balkan Aral Balkan

    RE: https://tldr.nettime.org/@remixtures/116356810759725972

    Does Israel have a right to exist?

    Yes, about as much as Nazi Germany or any other state guilty of settler colonialism, apartheid, ethnic cleansing, and genocide. Which is to say none whatsoever.

    What we have, as human beings, is the right to hold Israel responsible for its crimes, bring it to justice, and extract reparations to ease the plight of the survivors (even though it won’t undo the incalculable suffering and loss). And we’re not doing that. And by not doing that we are failing our own test of humanity.

    In conversation about 4 months ago from mastodon.ar.al permalink

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      Miguel Afonso Caetano (@remixtures@tldr.nettime.org)
      from Miguel Afonso Caetano
      "The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine allocated the majority of the land to a Jewish state, even though Jews were a minority of the population and owned only a small fraction of the land. The war that followed, the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, produced the mass displacement and killing of Palestinians. In that sense, the creation of Israel represents a foundational contradiction — an original sin within the supposedly rules-based international order. Yet the political conversation rarely confronts that contradiction. Instead, it fixates on the ritual question of whether Israel has a “right to exist.” In reality, international law does not recognize such a right for states; it recognizes the right of peoples to self-determination and prohibits territorial conquest. The question functions less as a legal inquiry than as a political litmus test. As Mohammed El-Kurd has argued, this framing forces Palestinians and others into a rhetorical trap. Rather than addressing dispossession, occupation, or unequal rights, they are first required to perform a moral certification assuring the world they do not seek violence before their political grievances can even be heard. The result is a debate that substitutes abstract pledges for the material realities of military rule, displacement, and statelessness. The answer to those two fundamental questions should start with the fact that the very order itself was founded on an initial contradiction that set it up for hypocrisy — and hypocrisy is the ultimate vulnerability. The system at once created this contradiction and is weakened by it. What comes next need not rely on false promises but on actions rooted in reality." https://jacobin.com/2026/04/israel-right-exist-palestine-self-determination/ #Israel #Zionism #Palestine #SelfDetermintation #InternationalLaw
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      Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 06-Apr-2026 18:01:43 JST Aral Balkan Aral Balkan
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      • Joanne Jacobs

      @joannejacobs When 82% of your population support the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza and when those people are actively involved in commiting genocide, it becomes very difficult to separate the people from the state.

      https://zeteo.com/p/its-not-just-netanyahu-a-lot-of-israelis

      And it’s not getting better.

      https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-892032

      We didn’t say Nazi Germany shouldn’t exist but Nazis are fine. Nazis are not fine. Nazis will never be fine.

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      Joanne Jacobs (joannejacobs@aus.social)'s status on Monday, 06-Apr-2026 18:01:44 JST Joanne Jacobs Joanne Jacobs
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      @aral the people have a right to exist. The government dies not have that right because they have broken international laws on genocide.

      I know you will say the people voted for the government, but the people have not supported the war on Gaza or indeed the war against Iran and other parts of the Gulf.

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Monday, 06-Apr-2026 20:01:59 JST Aral Balkan Aral Balkan
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      • Ken M Sweeney
      • Joanne Jacobs

      @joannejacobs @TheComfortableSpotPodcast Zionism is founded on settler colonialism, ethnic cleansing, apartheid, and genocide. How do you reform that? You might as well try and reform Nazism.

      If I come to your home tomorrow, kill half your family, take up three quarters of your house, torture your remaining relatives, and make you live at gunpoint do you try and reform me or get me the hell out of your house? Do I have a right to exist in your house?

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      Joanne Jacobs (joannejacobs@aus.social)'s status on Monday, 06-Apr-2026 20:02:00 JST Joanne Jacobs Joanne Jacobs
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      • Ken M Sweeney

      @TheComfortableSpotPodcast I acknowledge everything you have noted here. It is all true. It is appalling that there has been this complicity, this capitulation to a morally bereft agenda. And yet I cannot condemn and label an entire people with the acts even of a majority. The only way to change a culture is to provide a space for that change. That space comes when a few in that culture see a chance for revolution. @aral

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      Ken M Sweeney (thecomfortablespotpodcast@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 06-Apr-2026 20:02:01 JST Ken M Sweeney Ken M Sweeney
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      • Joanne Jacobs

      @joannejacobs @aral Polls, like the one shared, show substantial public support for actions that violate international law, including the expulsion of Palestinians and the use of extreme military force.
      Democracy does not absolve a population of responsibility for the actions of its government, especially when those actions are well-documented and widely publicised. 4)

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      Ken M Sweeney (thecomfortablespotpodcast@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 06-Apr-2026 20:02:01 JST Ken M Sweeney Ken M Sweeney
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      • Joanne Jacobs

      @joannejacobs @aral The ‘silent majority’ argument ignores the reality that silence and compliance in the face of oppression are forms of consent. If Israeli society truly opposed these policies, its collective power to demand change—through protests, votes, or refusal to participate in military actions—would be evident. Until then, the government’s actions reflect the will, or at least the tolerance, of its people. 5)

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      Ken M Sweeney (thecomfortablespotpodcast@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 06-Apr-2026 20:02:02 JST Ken M Sweeney Ken M Sweeney
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      • Joanne Jacobs

      @joannejacobs @aral You’re right that the Israeli people have a right to exist in safety and dignity—just as Palestinians and all people do. However, the argument that the Israeli government has broken international law—including prohibitions on genocide, apartheid, and war crimes—is not just rhetorical; it is supported by reports from the UN, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and the International Criminal Court (ICC). 1)

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      Ken M Sweeney (thecomfortablespotpodcast@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 06-Apr-2026 20:02:02 JST Ken M Sweeney Ken M Sweeney
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      • Joanne Jacobs

      @joannejacobs @aral These bodies have documented systematic violations, including the blockade of Gaza, settlement expansion, and military actions that disproportionately harm civilians.
      As for the claim that ‘the people did not support the war on Gaza or Iran’: Israel is indeed a democracy, but its democracy has consistently elected governments that pursue these policies. 2)

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink
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      Ken M Sweeney (thecomfortablespotpodcast@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 06-Apr-2026 20:02:02 JST Ken M Sweeney Ken M Sweeney
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      • Joanne Jacobs

      @joannejacobs @aral The current government, the most far-right in Israel’s history, was democratically elected in 2022 with a clear mandate for its approach to Palestine. While there have been protests—such as those against judicial reforms or specific military actions—there has been no mass refusal of conscription, no widespread civil disobedience, and no significant electoral shift away from hawkish policies. 3)

      In conversation about 4 months ago permalink

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