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   kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 03:56:53 JST kaia
   which used #ThinkPad model should I recommend to my friend who wants to run Windows 11? she's a new college student, needs MS 365 and not much more. it should be small-ish, robust and quite cheap - maybe 500EUR max.
   
   I was thinking this T14s maybe?
   
   her dad wanted to buy a yucky consumer HP, please help!!
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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 04:16:18 JST kaia

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     @Hyperhidrosis she has a chromebook, but can't use the Microsoft stuff on it she gets from uni
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     Hyperhidrosis (hyperhidrosis@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 04:16:19 JST Hyperhidrosis

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     @kaia js get a Chromebook
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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 04:18:10 JST kaia

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     @lain @Hyperhidrosis
     
     sorry, maybe wrong term. the student subscription cloud thing where you can download Word, Excel etc and have it as programs on your machine, but also as cloud applications.
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 04:18:11 JST lainy

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     @kaia @Hyperhidrosis MS 365? i thought that's a webpage.
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 04:21:03 JST Phantasm

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     @lain @kaia @Hyperhidrosis Half of the features are missing from the web one. It's basically a slightly better version of Google Docs.
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 04:21:03 JST lainy

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     @phnt @kaia @Hyperhidrosis i don't know why people at uni would need anything more than google docs
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 04:26:58 JST Phantasm

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     @lain @kaia @Hyperhidrosis Different departments like to enforce their own document templates which are usually either Word or \latex.
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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 04:27:32 JST kaia

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     @Hyperhidrosis @lain :aqua_happy:
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     Hyperhidrosis (hyperhidrosis@shitposter.world)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 04:27:33 JST Hyperhidrosis

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     @kaia @lain get a Lenovo IdeaPad
     
     Got mine cheap something like $400 and it lasted me 7 - 8 years
     still using it.
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 05:36:55 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @lain @kaia @phnt @Hyperhidrosis bitchez!
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 05:36:56 JST lainy

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     @mischievoustomato @kaia @phnt @Hyperhidrosis most girls I know are allergic to latex 😎
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 05:36:57 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @lain @kaia @phnt @Hyperhidrosis why isn't she writing latex
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     🐈‍⬛David Sommerseth (dazo@infosec.exchange)'s status on Sunday, 28-Sep-2025 03:14:24 JST 🐈‍⬛David Sommerseth

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     @kaia ThinkPad T series are quite good. Usually bigger screens (14-16”), keyboard key travel is a bit better. Weight is reasonable. Good materials.

     X series are smaller and lighter. E series are cheapest, IIRC, with mostly plastic and heavier. I believe L series is one level up from E. P series are more kinda portable workstations, with powerful CPUs and quite heavy.

     X1 is the flagship models, lighter and quite thinner than T series, but mostly same screen sizes. These have good specs, but keyboard key travel is short - gen 8 was cruel, gen 10 is worse.

     The best price is around from blackfriday times until January-ish on the Lenovo online shop - around the time new upgraded models hit the market. Last years models often get quite nice discounts.

     I only stay with ThinkPad because of the TrackPointer (the "red dot" in the middle of the keyboard). I find that being the best, most efficient and ergonomic mouse alternative available.

     If @frameworkcomputer would have trackpointer and deliver to my region, I'd give them a shot.

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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Sunday, 28-Sep-2025 03:16:46 JST kaia

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     @dazo thanks for explaining! I looked into it more and the Yoga I wanted to recommend her has a very common power button issue - the button being non-replaceable.
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     🐈‍⬛David Sommerseth (dazo@infosec.exchange)'s status on Sunday, 28-Sep-2025 03:29:36 JST 🐈‍⬛David Sommerseth

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     @kaia ThinkPad Yoga are nice ones ... I set one up 6-7 years ago, and felt like a good one back then.

     But it might be Lenovo also has some non-ThinkPad Yoga models these days too ... The non-ThinkPad models are more for the mass-consumer market. It often feels like overall poorer quality compared to ThinkPad, with less warranty/service options. Beware of that.

     I generally can recommend upgrading to 4 year service/warranty if available and if the price is somewhat reasonable. The on-site technicians do a pretty good job and they usually come the 1-2 days after reporting an issue, depending on the severity and if the report was done late in the evening or early in the morning.

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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Sunday, 28-Sep-2025 03:33:35 JST kaia

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     @dazo I don't think in the budget she has, she can get warranty. we are talking about refurbished leasing machines that are 2-3 years old. if they cost 1500EUR previously, now they are at 300-400EUR, which seems quite okay.
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     🐈‍⬛David Sommerseth (dazo@infosec.exchange)'s status on Sunday, 28-Sep-2025 07:56:32 JST 🐈‍⬛David Sommerseth

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     @kaia if you're lucky, you might still be able get an extended warranty on used/refurbished thinkpads ... And if really lucky, it won't be too expensive. But it depends a lot on the model. Worth checking out to see if it fits the budget.

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