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   Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 21:47:25 JST Lina Inver?e
   who the fuck is that
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 21:54:48 JST Lina Inver?e

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     @BleachChan there's no such thing as bad esl niggas at the core, you can't just claim people are bad because they don't know english that well, there's more important to discriminate people for like mingling with trannies
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     BleachChan (bleachchan@tsundere.love)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 21:54:49 JST BleachChan

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     @lina I didn't know that but your one of good ones I find you cool plus we both like anime
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 21:54:50 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • BleachChan
     @BleachChan you are speaking to an esl nigger right now
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     BleachChan (bleachchan@tsundere.love)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 21:54:51 JST BleachChan

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     @lina A esl nigger
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 22:00:02 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • BleachChan
     @MK2boogaloo @BleachChan i had iska in mind but there's other people who fit that bill nicely too
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     Avatar of Chaos (mk2boogaloo@freebeerextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 22:00:03 JST Avatar of Chaos

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     • BleachChan
     @BleachChan @lina he's talking about your instance.
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     BleachChan (bleachchan@tsundere.love)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 22:00:04 JST BleachChan

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     @lina Thats true
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 22:00:52 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • BleachChan
     @menherahair @BleachChan not "БЛЯЯЯЯЯЯЯЯЯЯЯЯЯТЬ"? what a painful experience
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     menherahair (menherahair@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 22:00:53 JST menherahair

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     • BleachChan
     @lina @BleachChan imagine being english native. imagine defining your life in this shit ass language. you stub your toe and get to say not kurwa, not puta madre, not sssssuuka and not even BORDEL DE MERDE but "OU FAK ME BLOODY SON OF A GUN :("
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     Avatar of Chaos (mk2boogaloo@freebeerextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 22:01:31 JST Avatar of Chaos

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     @lina @BleachChan folks this is why hatred is important to have, learn how to hate so that you will be safe and clean.
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     Avatar of Chaos (mk2boogaloo@freebeerextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 22:02:02 JST Avatar of Chaos

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     @lina @BleachChan
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 22:02:02 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • BleachChan
     @MK2boogaloo @BleachChan
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     RedTechEngineer (redtechengineer@fedi.lowpassfilter.link)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 22:08:34 JST RedTechEngineer

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     • BleachChan
     @MK2boogaloo @lina @BleachChan
     
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 22:08:34 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • BleachChan
     @RedTechEngineer @MK2boogaloo @BleachChan use a real image format, i have avif disabled
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 22:10:51 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • BleachChan
     @RedTechEngineer @MK2boogaloo @BleachChan >refuse gay made up image formats
     >its considered castration
     you probably think not having gay sex is also limiting yourself in life
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     RedTechEngineer (redtechengineer@fedi.lowpassfilter.link)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 22:10:52 JST RedTechEngineer

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     • BleachChan
     @lina @MK2boogaloo @BleachChan don't complain to me about castrating your browser
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 22:13:40 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • BleachChan
     @RedTechEngineer @MK2boogaloo @BleachChan jxl will never be a real jpeg
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     RedTechEngineer (redtechengineer@fedi.lowpassfilter.link)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 22:13:41 JST RedTechEngineer

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     • BleachChan
     @lina @MK2boogaloo @BleachChan fine, here is a jpeg.
     
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     Exterminatus (ex@unseen.name)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 22:33:17 JST Exterminatus

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     • BleachChan

     @lina

     mingling with trannies
     ackoma

     It checks out.

     @BleachChan

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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 03:31:34 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • BleachChan
     @dorkvalized @menherahair @BleachChan >thats too much
     >presents an example that's literally far too much for stubbing a toe
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     ​ (dorkvalized@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 03:31:36 JST ​

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     • BleachChan
     @menherahair @lina @BleachChan
     > not sssssuuka
     That’s too much for just hitting a toe. “Da yob…!” will suffice.
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 03:50:15 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • BleachChan
     @dorkvalized @menherahair @BleachChan you are literally a zoomer yourself
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     • BleachChan
     @lina @BleachChan @menherahair Also “блять” isn’t a word, it’s a zoomerspeak.
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     @lina @BleachChan @menherahair
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 04:09:47 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • BleachChan
     @dorkvalized @menherahair @BleachChan why should i? i'm talking to you right now
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     ​ (dorkvalized@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 04:09:49 JST ​

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     • BleachChan
     @lina @BleachChan @menherahair Uncretinify yourself and re-read menhera’s post.
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 04:09:50 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • BleachChan
     @dorkvalized @menherahair @BleachChan i don't think i get you here, i pointed out that сука is a lot less harsh to say than "да ёб" in response to a toe stub when you claimed the polar opposite, even though сука is widely regarded as a literary word, even if rude, and да ёб is straight up profanity, and in response to that you try to pretend that you're not a zoomer by claiming блять is zoomerspeak?
     unless you have a personal reason as to why misspelling блядь wounds you so greatly, i have no explanation for your inflammed behavior
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     ​ (dorkvalized@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 04:09:51 JST ​

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     • BleachChan
     @lina @BleachChan @menherahair Just say “блять” again.
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 04:11:38 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • BleachChan
     @dorkvalized @menherahair @BleachChan you sound pretty envious of that, must be hard being a pseudointellectual
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     • BleachChan
     @lina @BleachChan @menherahair Stay a cretin, I don’t insist.
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     Yukkuri (iamtakingiteasy@eientei.org)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 04:32:09 JST Yukkuri

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     • BleachChan
     @dorkvalized @lina @menherahair @BleachChan Regardless of what wikifaggots tend to think, "блять" works well as a distilled curse without ambiguity of whether you imply someone is a whore and deserving a full stop unlike "бля".
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     Yukkuri (iamtakingiteasy@eientei.org)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 05:08:49 JST Yukkuri

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     @dorkvalized @lina @menherahair @BleachChan At least ~5 years ago they were adamant of "блять" being just an incorrect spelling, which is understandable given their reliance on [printable] sources. Either way, it predates zoomers by great margin, being in wide use throughout the late 90s and 00s at very least. Which is probably indicative that past generations never had to deal with internet chats - you can't do away with spelling distinction without providing at least a sentence worth of context.
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     • menherahair
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     @iamtakingiteasy @BleachChan @lina @menherahair
     > Regardless of what wikifaggots tend to think, "блять" works well
     Wikifaggots think just like you. One of them, one of them, haha.
     > without ambiguity
     Words, morphemes and punctuation served past generations well enough.
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Friday, 26-Sep-2025 10:10:00 JST Lina Inver?e

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     @dorkvalized @iamtakingiteasy @menherahair @BleachChan tl;dr
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     • BleachChan
     @iamtakingiteasy @BleachChan @lina @menherahair > Either way, it predates zoomers by great margin, being in wide use throughout the late 90s and 00s at very least.
     Late 90s and 00s is exactly the time when zoomers’ speech was being shaped. Also I don’t know what “wide use” do you speak of, I haven’t seen it on the internet yet in the early 2010s. It started to appear often since about 2016–2018. That’s when those born in the mid-to-late 90s emerged on the plains of the internet.
     
     Observing written material is important, – and especially in this case – because how a person chooses to write something, reflects his considerations on how it should be correct to convey the thought. Implying that a person can put at least some sense into speech, and any deviation passed against the written norm is conscious and intentional. Provided, again, that the person in question has an understanding of the norm, at least for the case which concerns the word, whose form deviates. Hope you’re bored already.
     
     In the case with the word “блять” the observation of the written form is important, because in the speech (*yawns*) the distinction cannot be discerned often, due to the characteristic devoicing of the consonant at the end of word in the spoken Russian. You cannot insist, that a word existed, when only its pronunciation was around, and nobody made a distinction. It is when the ‘-ть’ suffix began to appear at the end of the written word, that people started to see a distinction. Perceiving the devoicing as a norm has been growing together with zoomers and made into a separate concept (in fact, cleaving a part of the existing concept) and to a word by them. (Still here? You will regret reading further, I promise.) I refuse to recognise this word, because its basis is in mishearing an actual word. Everyone insisting that it should be a real word is the same to me, as a person insisting we should have “кросавчег”, “[Нина] але-Гавна” и “зобыл”. It is not hard to realise the difference between the volatile spoken variants of real words, changed for a stylistic effect, words that appear and die within a couple decades, –and the rock-solid actual words that are comprising the language and serving as the source for the following generations of variants to come. There’s no real reason for this crafted word to be, because it doesn’t introduce neither a new sense, nor a specific tone or clarity. Niggers not using words and avoiding punctuation is no new thing. Bunin said, that the word “лҍс” loses all of its resin-y aroma together with rescinding the ‘ҍ’, and while I’ll be among the first to advocate for getting “лҍс” back as a stylistic alternative (the reason for which Bunin provided in that very expression of his), it would obviously be wrong, if we allowed it as an ⧸equal alternative to the standard word⧸, as in case with “[нет] носков — [нет] носок”. Because people would hardly pick the alternative, because they would be thinking of a picturesque image of a pinery they remember, along what Bunin has implied. No, the word would be picked because people are just always hungry for something new, they are like magpies collecting any trash, as long as it’s shiny or has a fancy shape. Should we then take the trash home, because some people do it, and accommodate space for it in our living rooms? Normal people take the trash out. The word “лҍс” was an example of a word, that might work. With a limited use, employed consciously, cleverly and when it’d be fitting, this could be an enrichment. The word “блять”, however, has no qualities like that. It’s but a misheard word, that some think to make into an alternative variant of an existing word, and why? simply because they ⧸got accustomed to thinking of it as a correct one⧸ – instead of straightening their awry perception of their native tongue. Mutations are not always good, and people, beginning with V. I. Dal and ending with K. G. Paustovsky wrote about it at length. It required generations of word smiths to bring the Russian language to a coherent shape, to enrich it, and to finally structurise it, making it more orderly – in part, by deprecating some dialect spellings and former norms (and no, I’m not speaking of the 1918 reform, though it is, indeed, a part of the reformation that took place between Lomonosov and Rosental). Even if we forget about everything above, the word “блять” does not even serve the job well – it is supposedly ⧸the⧸ word to be used for an exclamation, an interjection (and an obscene one at that), as opposite to the sense of referring to a ‘promiscuous woman’. Now how does it work for this purpose? If we use “блять” in a sentence like “Да ну, блять…” it kinda works. But if we put it as an interjection, “Блять!” then the spelling contradicts the purpose: an exclamation is pronounced with added loudness, which makes even a devoiced consonant at the end (if the person pronounces it so) sound louder, more like a voiced one. And the spelling via ‘-ть’ conveys the opposite, a hushed tone. To whoever mouth this word is to be put, he would sound like a schizophrenic: wanting to yell, but in reality only mumbling to himself.
     
     With this I think that my point is explained in enough detail. Burning with anticipation to see a top-class intellectual discussion rn fr fr
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     @dorkvalized @lina @menherahair @BleachChan By the same logic you could say zoomer speech was also formed throughout late 1800s and early 1900s, which is dishonest at best. If you haven't seen wide use of "блять", I must suspect you haven't truly frequented IRC, web chats or IMs -- particularly the group chats -- at the time. Thing is, when new communication medium of short, urgently exchanged messages between multiple simultaneous parties appeared, it made inefficiencies of language tailored without such considerations in mind exceedingly apparent, not even the immediately preceding usenet/fidonet mediums were all that functionally different from age-old correspondence as to impose any changes on the language aside from vocabulary, few abbreviations and codepage/keyboard layout interactions. What makes you associate chat-speak with zoomers is that they're uniformly immersed in this new medium, while past generations had sporadic immersion of select percentages of population at best, but it was for gen x and millennials to bring language into shape it never was really tried against before, we were among those involuntary word-smiths, if you will. In the end, I think you well summarised the sentiment of "wanting to yell, but in reality only mumbling to himself", but for some reason you're yet to accept this as a new reality, or to fully recognise the implications of it. Perhaps it's the appetite for language purism or mere elitism implied by it, but language that cannot be concise when it needs to be is even worse than a language that cannot be ambiguous when it needs to be, as it fails at one thing languages exist to do: communicate, and communicating different set of concepts invariably requires different encodings, whether by bloat of context or by syntax itself. Unlike a stylistic choice whether to invoke particular details to the image in mind, or a choice whether to self-identify as a particular culture, "блять"/"блядь" distinction does it's job best at whether to communicate particular connotations that may or may not be applicable within the previously established context, particularly in written mediums, but most prominently in urgent written mediums, where you could not feasibly spend prohibitive amount of time and storage space detailing all necessary fine particularities, or having to deal with the likely confusion. It serves a clear purpose and cannot be substituted under existing constraints.
     
     The case of "носок" - "носков" existing at the same time in modern language by the way is the one of many echoes of dualis in the Old Church Slavonic - the concept of socks coming in pairs is important enough that we still choose to communicate it from time to time. A great deal of grammatical exceptions of modern Russian could be well understood if you but start with Old Church Slavonic, in it's full range of grammatical times, numbers and declensions, but as you would be lost in seemingly arbitrary modern grammar rules without knowing their roots, you would be equally lost treating every new problem as a nail when all you ever had was a hammer of soviet standardisation.
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