@edendestroyer Does anyone know who their mods are?
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Arend (they/them) (arendleejessurun@musicians.today)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 18:26:14 JST
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Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 18:26:10 JST
Aral Balkan
@arendleejessurun @rzeta0 @gunchleoc @edendestroyer @nicdex That would be really helpful.
Please see https://gaza-verified.org/guide/#servers for a list of servers whose admins have stated that they are safe spaces for people surviving genocide and famine.
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Arend (they/them) (arendleejessurun@musicians.today)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 18:26:11 JST
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@rzeta0 @gunchleoc @edendestroyer
Perhaps there's a way for us to help Palestinian folks to another instance when their mods are found discriminating?
Also, there ought to be something we can do about mods who are found to be discriminating against Palestinians (and folks in need of mutual aid in general).
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GunChleoc (gunchleoc@mastodon.scot)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 18:26:12 JST
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@arendleejessurun @rzeta0 @edendestroyer @nicdex Unfortunately, there are assholes on the Fediverse that will report people asking for mutual aid. It's also hard sometimes to distinguish scammers from the real thing, especially with many new accounts popping up.
This account has been verified by gaza-verified.org/, so definitely not a scammer.
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Tariq (rzeta0@mas.to)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 18:26:12 JST
Tariq
@gunchleoc @arendleejessurun @edendestroyer @nicdex
yes. and those "assholes" include admins.
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Tariq (rzeta0@mas.to)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 18:26:13 JST
Tariq
@arendleejessurun @edendestroyer
The admin @nicdex should be able to explain.
I'm hoping this is not yet another (another!) example of mastodon crushing anti-genocide and Palestinian voices.
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Arend (they/them) (arendleejessurun@musicians.today)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 18:26:13 JST
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@rzeta0 @edendestroyer @nicdex I'm hoping the same! We have to do better, folks.
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Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 18:26:53 JST
Aral Balkan
@gunchleoc @arendleejessurun @rzeta0 @edendestroyer @nicdex The reason that was communicated to me was “hashtag misuse”.
I don’t know what that means.
From the posts I’ve seen Mahmoud wasn‘t abusing hashtags by mentioning unrelated topics. He did use #trump apparently. Not sure if that triggered it.
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nicdex 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 (nicdex@techhub.social)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 18:26:54 JST
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@arendleejessurun @rzeta0 @gunchleoc @edendestroyer This conversation is over. I don't have to take these insults on my person. You don't know me and I've been more than lenient with Mahmood, if you cared to read my first reply instead of riding your high horse.
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GunChleoc (gunchleoc@mastodon.scot)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 18:26:54 JST
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@arendleejessurun @rzeta0 @edendestroyer I do understand where @nicdex is coming from in this conversation. Assuming bad faith before he even had time to say something is now how you communicate well. Moderation is already a shit job as it is, and opening up individual decisions to public discussion can be a can of worms, because people then know they can scream at you.
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GunChleoc (gunchleoc@mastodon.scot)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 18:26:54 JST
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@arendleejessurun @rzeta0 @edendestroyer @nicdex If I had to guess, Mahmoud tagged people lots of people that he didn't have a prior connection with - the rule/social convention not to do that trips some Palestinians up.
What we can do now is boost his posts, this way he will get seen anyway.
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Arend (they/them) (arendleejessurun@musicians.today)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 18:26:55 JST
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@nicdex @rzeta0 @gunchleoc @edendestroyer Fair enough. What then leaves us to not assume that you care more for your rules than you do this man's life?
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Arend (they/them) (arendleejessurun@musicians.today)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 18:26:56 JST
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@nicdex @rzeta0 @gunchleoc @edendestroyer What rules would those be? (And aren't you the owner? What do you mean "trouble"?)
But more importantly, what did Mahmoud violate?
I'd expect there to be a LITTLE more leniency since he is after all, living through a genocide.
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nicdex 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 (nicdex@techhub.social)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 18:26:56 JST
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@arendleejessurun @rzeta0 @gunchleoc @edendestroyer I'm not discussing moderation details with anyone else than the person concerned.
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Arend (they/them) (arendleejessurun@musicians.today)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 18:26:57 JST
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@rzeta0 @gunchleoc @edendestroyer True, I appreciate that. @nicdex
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nicdex 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 (nicdex@techhub.social)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 18:26:57 JST
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@arendleejessurun @rzeta0 @gunchleoc @edendestroyer There was no discrimination here, I just applied our rules and code of conduct.
In addition @mahmoudoov received two warnings, the account was only limited on the third violation. I also closed a bunch of reports because they were unfounded.
I was going to review the limitation after a week, but if this is the kind of trouble I will get in for only applying the rules, then maybe it's best if @mahmoudoov move to another server. -
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Tariq (rzeta0@mas.to)'s status on Thursday, 25-Sep-2025 18:26:58 JST
Tariq
@arendleejessurun @gunchleoc @edendestroyer @nicdex
I think this is a multi-front effort requiring multiple skills.
Some will be good at migration, some will better at advocating, some will be better at spotting bad admins
Some will have the fight in them to hold bad admins feet to the fire - something we can't give up on, because that is like asking black people to find another restaurant that isn't so racist
I saw a few days ago that hachyderm was welcoming Palestinian voices.
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