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   Leah Rowe is not a Rowebot (libreleah@mas.to)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Sep-2025 18:28:08 JST Leah Rowe is not a Rowebot

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   • Fabio Manganiello

   @fabio i actually prefer wayland, but i like lxde. i have on todo to port it to wayland. the interface in lxde is great. i refuse to use anything else.

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     Fabio Manganiello (fabio@manganiello.social)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Sep-2025 18:28:09 JST Fabio Manganiello

     @libreleah I use Arch (btw) on most of my machines, but I still have 5-6 RPis around stuck on Bullseye (and two of them even on Buster) exactly because it’s always been a pain to run a proper dist-upgrade.

     I don’t mind the half a day downtime when I manage only one Debian system, but when it’s 5-6 systems that easily become half a week just to manage upgrades, backports, broken packages etc. (sometimes in the past I just gave up and did a fresh install, which really sucked).

     But if you can confirm that the process has finally become painless then I may even try to do the jump - I guess that the biggest blocker for me would be to migrate all the custom X11 scripts on those machines to Wayland, which I currently hate more than Pipewire…

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     Leah Rowe is not a Rowebot (libreleah@mas.to)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Sep-2025 18:37:09 JST Leah Rowe is not a Rowebot

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     • Fabio Manganiello

     @fabio the problem is that gtk past version 2 is an absolutely trainwreck, and though lxde has gtk3 support, i can't stay on 3 forever. so at that point i'd probably be looking at porting it to qt... which then makes lxqt a logical choice, which also has been integrating wayland support. so whatever.

     but lxqt is bloat compared to lxde. lxde is the only reason i still use xorg.

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     Leah Rowe is not a Rowebot (libreleah@mas.to)'s status on Tuesday, 02-Sep-2025 19:13:00 JST Leah Rowe is not a Rowebot

     minor issues so far:

     * mpv: scroll wheel now changes volume, rather than skipping back/forward frames. i consider this a bug. having to switch to the window to use arrows to change scene is annoying. i will be fixing this.

     * transmission-gtk completely b0rked. i switched to the qt version.

     * still doesn't package librewolf, but i build that from source. no worries.

     * pipewire still sucks. but everything does. it takes me longer to adapt to change.

     * obconf b0rked. library issue. will fix.

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     Leah Rowe is not a Rowebot (libreleah@mas.to)'s status on Wednesday, 03-Sep-2025 19:12:12 JST Leah Rowe is not a Rowebot

     As for LXDE; yes, I'm an LXDE user in 2025. It's the only good desktop environment that currently exists, in my opinion. Alll it needs is a port to Wayland (gtk3 versions of LXDE utils), with nothing changed except the underlying code for that purpose - but otherwise, exactly the same.

     Maybe tweak a few minor things here and there. For example, this would also allow for much nicer DPI scaling. Maybe window snapping and nice little things like that. Perhaps a quasi-tiling mode.

     Pic says it all.