Eniko Fox
Reading a thread of comments on a poll about where people stand on covid mitigations and seeing someone proclaim "I know when I have covid/flu" so they know not to see people if they have symptoms
My good man, a large quantity of covid infections are asymptomatic (but can still spread) with figures quoted at 25%, 45% even up to 60% of infections. I know this is inconvenient but it is the reality of the situation
Eniko Fox
@strypey i would not draw an equivalence for covid to colds or the flu
1. covid has not shown a seasonal pattern
2. covid is far more severe and has a much higher chance of severe long term damage, even from mild infections, than either of those
3. covid is not a respiratory infection, it's a circulatory infection, so unlike colds and the flu it infects every organ in the body, not just the respiratory system, including the brain
Strypey
@eniko
> a large quantity of covid infections are asymptomatic (but can still spread) with figures quoted at 25%, 45% even up to 60% of infections
Which means that COVID is now part of everyday life, like colds and flus are, and most pandemic measures are now pointless. So it's time to divide them into;
a) part of our daily hygiene forever more
b) emergency measures that have done their dash, and need to be put back in the drawer for the next epi/pandemic
The debate now is, which is which?
Machine Lord Zero
@eniko ooh, or "I keep an eye on waste water virus levels, and when they rise above..."
how do you think they rise, quarterwit?
Machine Lord Zero
@eniko "I'm autistic and I don't like to stand out"
Don't worry, your grave will blend in with the others around it.
Machine Lord Zero
@eniko holy fuck so much downplaying in the replies to that thing.
"oh well I stopped masking in crowded spaces back in..." plague rat. Die.
Machine Lord Zero
@eniko I used to joke about using facial recognition cameras attached to turrets to encourage masking.
If they recognise a face, they put a hole in it.
I'm not really joking any more.
Eniko Fox
idk about you but given hospital acquired covid infections are measurably worse i don't want to get sick, have to go to hospital, and then die or become permanently debilitated from a covid infection a nurse or a guest gave me because they couldn't be fucked masking. and i don't want that for anyone else either, but it keeps happening
if that makes me soooooo unreasonable then uhh i guess i'm fucking unreasonable
Eniko Fox
"people who are still concerned about covid are so unreasonable, they just want us all to go into lockdown again!"
literally nobody is asking for that. what people are asking for is stuff like universal masking in unavoidable situations like healthcare settings and investment in indoor air filtration/clean air infrastructure
Eniko Fox
i guess i'm also very unreasonable in wanting clean air in schools. because schools are hotbeds of viral activity and in most countries completely unavoidable, and i thought we cared about kids. so maybe we should do something so they don't get sick all the time, and so their parents don't get sick from them all the time
and we know air filters work and we know uv-c above drop-ceilings work. hell, even fucking ceiling mounted fans work! but instead we're not doing anything
wow, so unreasonable
Eniko Fox
even if you don't give a shit about covid you should want clean air in schools (and other public buildings but lets start by aiming low 🙄) because guess what, getting sick more often is a huge economic hit. it literally costs the economy exponentially more money to *not* filter the air than to do it
but maybe that pragmatic argument is too reasonable coming from an unreasonable person like myself who is still concerned about covid
Eniko Fox
i just cannot get over the fact that you can literally just turn on a ceiling mounted fan and measurably decrease covid (and other viral) spread and people are out there just like "🤷♂️ guess i'll get covid 6 times a year what can you do"
turns out you can do a lot, actually, and it's cheap and trivially easy!!!!!!
Eniko Fox
this is how clownshoes you sound when you come at me with like "well what do you propose we do? we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!"
idk man filter the fucking air with drop-ceiling uvc or far uvc or air filters or ceiling fans or build buildings so that they're naturally ventilating which people figured out during the spanish flu over a 100 fucking years ago. stay the fuck home when you're sick and wear a mask in healthcare settings
or maybe, DO ALL OF THOSE??
Eniko Fox
rotary ceiling fans first appeared in the early 1860s and if you want to get really fancy ceiling fans of some description existed as far back as 500 BC in india but no! there's nothing we can do!! it's not like we could employ a piece of tech that's literally centuries to millennia old!!!!
absolutely fucking ridiculous
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