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   OCTADE (octade@soc.octade.net)'s status on Saturday, 09-Aug-2025 23:55:10 JST OCTADE
   NATIVITY OF JESUS CHRIST
   
   I am doing some research on the nativity of Jesus of Nazareth. I am looking into the many sectarian traditions and scholarly opinions on this subject.
   
   I would like to get hermeneutic opinions and off the cuff opinions on some groundwork questions.
   
   1. What actual year do you think Jesus was born?
   
   2. How old was Mary when she was married?
   
   3. How did Mary conceive?
   
   4. What is the significance of his birthplace?
   
   5. What is the significance of the Magi who sought him after his birth?
   
   6. Why was it necessary or significant for an angel to tell Mary she was going to conceive?
   
   Where possible, links or citations would be useful for particular opinions or traditional explanations.
   
   #bible #jesus #theology #mary #miriam #virginbirth #nativity #incarnation #christ #christianity
   
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     Daniel Johnson (ossobuffo@deacon.social)'s status on Sunday, 10-Aug-2025 01:26:19 JST Daniel Johnson

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     @octade @theology @christianity @religion @academicchatter @infostorm
     1. 1 A.D. is the traditional year, though many historians think 3 is more likely.

     2. Tradition has it that she was about 14. (See the Protoevangelion of James.)

     3. The Gospels indicate that the Holy Spirit provided the paternal impetus. There is (obviously) no historical opinion on where the paternal half of the chromosomes came from. I would presume that they were created; I would not be surprised at all if they were identical with Adam's, since Christ is the perfect Second Adam.

     4. Bethlehem was the city of David, his royal forbear. Thus he fulfilled the prophecies that the King must come from David's city.

     5. The Magi are the first example of the nations bowing before him. They are a foreshadowing of Pentecost, when all the nations began hearing about Jesus in their own language.

     6. It was crucial that Mary consent to the conception. When Gabriel told her what had been pre-ordained before the world began, she replied, "Let it be done to me according to your word." It was this "yes," this obedience, that began to unbind the curse of disobedience which had begun in the Garden of Eden. God always respects human free will, and will never force himself on anyone, because he desires to be loved, and love must always be a free choice.

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     HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴 (histopol@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 10-Aug-2025 01:37:01 JST HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴

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     • Daniel Johnson

     #Religion #Christ

     @octade
     Interesting array of questions.
     Whereas the #Christian perspective has been excellently summed up by the Natural Intelligence, NI, Daniel 😉
     @ossobuffo,
     I have heard several times that #Jesus is seen as a prophet in the other #Abrahamaic religions, #Judaism and #Islam, it would be interesting to hear a similarly perspective from their side on your questions.

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