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✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 13:44:51 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

on one hand, the upcoming financial crash will make us all even more miserable
on the other one, the second AI winter can't come quickly enough

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  ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 13:56:41 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧
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  @casandro oh, when was the first one?
  
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  Christian Berger DECT 2763 (casandro@f-ckendehoelle.de)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 13:56:43 JST Christian Berger DECT 2763
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  @whitequark Uhm, wasn't the second AI winter already in the 1970s?
  
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  ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 14:06:07 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧
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  @casandro oh til
  
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  Christian Berger DECT 2763 (casandro@f-ckendehoelle.de)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 14:06:08 JST Christian Berger DECT 2763
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  @whitequark Apparently 1966
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    AI winter
    
    In the history of artificial intelligence (AI), an AI winter is a period of reduced funding and interest in AI research. The field has experienced several hype cycles, followed by disappointment and criticism, followed by funding cuts, followed by renewed interest years or even decades later. The term first appeared in 1984 as the topic of a public debate at the annual meeting of AAAI (then called the "American Association of Artificial Intelligence"). Roger Schank and Marvin Minsky—two leading AI researchers who experienced the "winter" of the 1970s—warned the business community that enthusiasm for AI had spiraled out of control in the 1980s and that disappointment would certainly follow. They described a chain reaction, similar to a "nuclear winter", that would begin with pessimism in the AI community, followed by pessimism in the press, followed by a severe cutback in funding, followed by the end of serious research. Three years later the billion-dollar AI industry began to collapse. There were two major "winters" approximately 1974–1980 and 1987–2000, and several smaller episodes, including the following: 1966: failure...
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  I love this, so I (jpm@aus.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 14:06:30 JST I love this, so I
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  @dramforever @whitequark exactly, AU$30 delivered for a Zynq7010 board is so excellent for hobbyists
  
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  ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 14:06:30 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧
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  @jpm @dramforever isn't that... high?
  
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  I love this, so I (jpm@aus.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 14:06:31 JST I love this, so I
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  @whitequark and on the third hand, there’s going to be a whole heap of very powerful but also very useful hardware going very cheap (see also: FPGAs on ex-cryptocurrency systems now that they’re unprofitable)
  
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  dram🎀 (dramforever@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 14:06:31 JST dram🎀
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  @jpm @whitequark not powerful, but the ebaz4205 (7z010) "development" boards are objectively funny
  
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  JP (froztbyte@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 14:09:29 JST JP
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  @whitequark @casandro Yeah I was also surprised by opening that page the other day! strong agree on next winter though
  
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  David Smith (catfish_man@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 15:25:30 JST David Smith
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  @whitequark @pikhq rare context where me groggily misreading this as “on the other one, the third hand, …” made sense still 😂
  
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  ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 16:40:52 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧
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  @jpm @dramforever insanely overpriced
  
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  I love this, so I (jpm@aus.social)'s status on Friday, 08-Aug-2025 16:40:53 JST I love this, so I
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  @whitequark @dramforever about the asking price on AliExpress at the moment, for a single board delivered in a week or two.
  
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