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   ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 28-Jul-2025 22:32:29 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

   what in the actual fuck is going on with sdcc

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 28-Jul-2025 22:33:24 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     i looked at the source (absolutely vile artifact that e.g. puts a length in a variable named "cksum" because... that allowed them to _reuse a local variable) and i couldn't figure out why this happens https://github.com/swegener/sdcc/blob/32d54288f93a1337c369e7d293bfa58cd0b0bc5f/sdas/linksrc/lkihx.c#L161

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 28-Jul-2025 22:40:23 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • Graham Sutherland 🎃 Polynomial

     @gsuberland i wonder if it's intended to run on sdcc itself

     because sdcc itself might generate smaller code for this

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     Graham Sutherland 🎃 Polynomial (gsuberland@chaos.social)'s status on Monday, 28-Jul-2025 22:40:24 JST Graham Sutherland 🎃 Polynomial

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     @whitequark ... I would bet money that the compiler generates exactly equivalent or worse code with this "optimisation" in place compared to without it.

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 28-Jul-2025 22:43:58 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     i eventually gave up (sdcc would generate 0x20-long records on debian and 0x10-long records on nixos and there aren't any patches in either of them and the lengths should have been compile time defines) and wrote a normalizing script because i was not prepared to spend my day doing this shit

     debian actually carries one patch: it fixes a typo in the source code and two in the changelog, changes nothing else. clear sign of too much time on one's hands

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 28-Jul-2025 22:44:41 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     • jaseg

     @jaseg but i love those things, that's why i tried to find out

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     jaseg (jaseg@chaos.social)'s status on Monday, 28-Jul-2025 22:44:42 JST jaseg

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     @whitequark this sounds like the kind of thing that even in case you can find out easily you're better off not knowing

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 28-Jul-2025 22:45:07 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     really it was more complicated than that because some of the records would also be out of order and it's clear _something_ changed but i cannot for the life of me figure out what

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     abrasive (abrasive@digipres.club)'s status on Monday, 28-Jul-2025 23:00:56 JST abrasive

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     @whitequark insult to injury, they even had a dead local named "bytes" just sitting there?

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     poleguy looking for lost tools (poleguy@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 28-Jul-2025 23:30:54 JST poleguy looking for lost tools

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     @whitequark I recently had a failure where my code started producing different results on a different machine. I eventually tracked it down to a change in a python library I had imported to do markdown rendering. The slight formatting change caused my unchanged code to hit a latent bug and crash.

     Could it be the Devian and NixOS environments are pulling in slightly different versions of dependencies?

     This seems likely only if the problem comes from python, not from .c code...

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     dram🎀 (dramforever@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 28-Jul-2025 23:34:27 JST dram🎀

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     @whitequark same code that relies on TCO to do retrying on flipping to next bank as well

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     ✧✦Catherine✦✧ (whitequark@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 28-Jul-2025 23:37:03 JST ✧✦Catherine✦✧

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     @dramforever don't think it relies on that, you'd only flip banks, like, four times max

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     dram🎀 (dramforever@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 28-Jul-2025 23:37:30 JST dram🎀

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     @whitequark oh...

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     JP (froztbyte@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 29-Jul-2025 00:07:04 JST JP

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     @whitequark shotgun time, compiler haunted