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    John Carlos Baez (johncarlosbaez@mathstodon.xyz)'s status on Monday, 21-Jul-2025 21:57:51 JST John Carlos Baez John Carlos Baez
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    • Plyspomitox ⓥ 😷

    @plyspomitox - wow, that's a nice pattern. I've known

    1/7 = 0.142857142857...

    and the 14 and 28 struck me, but I never thought about it too hard.

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      Plyspomitox ⓥ 😷 (plyspomitox@chaos.social)'s status on Monday, 21-Jul-2025 21:57:52 JST Plyspomitox ⓥ 😷 Plyspomitox ⓥ 😷
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      @johncarlosbaez i was amazed when i learned that 1 / 7 is 0.142857 (repeating) which struck me as odd as that contains 14, 0028, 000056, 00000112 and so on
      and so 1/7 is basically the infinite sum of
      7*(0.02)^n

      which is so because 1/49 is the infinite sum of 0.02^n ... 0.02 being 1/50

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      John Carlos Baez (johncarlosbaez@mathstodon.xyz)'s status on Monday, 21-Jul-2025 21:57:54 JST John Carlos Baez John Carlos Baez

      List all the numbers

      1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, ...

      skip every second one:

      1, 3, 5, 7, ...

      form the partial sums like this:

      1, 1+3, 1+3+5, 1+3+5+7, ...

      Hey, you get the square numbers!

      1, 4, 9, 16, ...

      Lots of people know that. But now list all the numbers

      1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, ...

      skip every *third* one:

      1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, ...

      then form the partial sums:

      1, 1+2, 1+2+4, 1+2+4+5, 1+2+4+5+7 ...

      =

      1, 3, 7, 12, 19, ...

      then skip every *second* one:

      1, 7, 19, ....

      then form the partial sums again:

      1, 8, 27, ...

      Hey, now you get the cubes! You shouldn't trust me based on so little evidence, so do some more, or prove it works.

      But the cool part is that this pattern goes on forever. If you list all the natural numbers starting from 1, skip every nth one, form the list of partial sums, skip every (n-1)st one, form the list of partial sums, skip every (n-2)nd one, ... blah di blah di blah... skip every 2nd one, then form the list of partial sums, you get the nth powers!

      This is called Moessner's theorem, and I learned about it from Michael Fourman. It's in Chapter 7.5 here:

      • Jan Rutten, The Method of Coalgebra: Exercises in Coinduction, https://ir.cwi.nl/pub/28550/rutten.pdf

      Moral: anytime you see a pattern in mathematics - one that goes on infinitely, not a coincidence! - it's probably just the tip of a bigger iceberg.

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