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    Simon Brooke (simon_brooke@mastodon.scot)'s status on Sunday, 06-Jul-2025 01:51:03 JST Simon Brooke Simon Brooke
    • Catelyn

    @catgirlQueer @vashti As I myself wrote, years ago,

    "At nanosecond resolution (if I've done my arithmetic right), 128 bits will represent a span of 1 x 10²² years, or much longer than from the big bang to the estimated date of fuel exhaustion of all stars. So I think I'll arbitrarily set an epoch 14Bn years before the UNIX epoch and go with that. The time will be unsigned - there is no time before the big bang."

    So, yes, if you're content with nanosecond resolution...

    https://github.com/simon-brooke/post-scarcity/wiki/cons-space#time

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      Poul-Henning Kamp (bsdphk@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 06-Jul-2025 01:51:01 JST Poul-Henning Kamp Poul-Henning Kamp
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      • Catelyn

      @simon_brooke @catgirlQueer @vashti

      Fun fact:

      Until 1972-01-01Z we used rubber-time, because astrometry is not nearly as constant as most people seem to think.

      But it is worse than that.

      We literally have no idea how long nanoseconds took before 1958-01-01Z

      If you go back before observations of solar eclipses, we even barely know how long days took.

      Any epoch before 1972-01-01Z by defintion causes wrong timekeeping.

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      Poul-Henning Kamp (bsdphk@fosstodon.org)'s status on Sunday, 06-Jul-2025 01:51:01 JST Poul-Henning Kamp Poul-Henning Kamp
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      • Catelyn

      @simon_brooke @catgirlQueer @vashti

      Also:

      Until we ditch leap-seconds, we cannot predict how many seconds there will be until some timestamp in the future, since that depends on what the director of the Paris Observatory decides twice a year.

      And on top of that, time-zones are political decisions, so even without leap-seconds, it is anyone's guess how long time there is to 2026-01-01 09:00 in Mississippi.

      In conversation about 10 months ago permalink
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      kmohrf (er/he) (kmohrf@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Jul-2025 04:46:33 JST kmohrf (er/he) kmohrf (er/he)
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      • Catelyn

      @simon_brooke @catgirlQueer @vashti it would be incredibly funny if "there is no time before the big bang" would ever end up in that famous "Falsehoods programmers believe about time" blog post 😅

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      Rich Felker (dalias@hachyderm.io)'s status on Wednesday, 09-Jul-2025 04:50:34 JST Rich Felker Rich Felker
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      • Catelyn
      • Poul-Henning Kamp

      @bsdphk @simon_brooke @catgirlQueer @vashti Time zones are just presentation layer and not part of the core problem here.

      In conversation about 10 months ago permalink

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