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   cthos 🐱 (cthos@mastodon.cthos.dev)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jun-2025 01:25:28 JST cthos 🐱

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   The fact that the GenAI industry isn't providing actual data about their energy usage should make you _very_ skeptical about their claims of "it's fine".

   And I'm a little disappointed in seeing folks I generally respect being like "oh no, it's not as much as you think" - y'all need to show me hard data.

   Also, I would fucking hope a text extruder uses less energy than serving 4k video, the fact that it presently *isn't* is a travesty - nevermind its other travesties.

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     cthos 🐱 (cthos@mastodon.cthos.dev)'s status on Thursday, 19-Jun-2025 01:25:29 JST cthos 🐱

     So, re: LLMs and the "jury is out on energy usage", I just want to point out a couple of historical things.

     When studies came out linking smoking to increased risk of cancer, the Tobacco industry paid for and produced studies that said "nuh uh".

     When Obesity and heart disease rates increased in the United States and the problem was linked to sugar intake, the sugar industry produced studies saying it was fats.

     https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3490543/#sec4

     Rich Felker, clacke at libranet.de is my main and clacke@libranet.de is main 🐘 repeated this.