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    Mark Gritter (markgritter@mathstodon.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 15-Jun-2025 12:20:45 JST Mark Gritter Mark Gritter

    We could just ... not give police tear gas. That is a decision we could make. A state or city could make that decision, and remove it from inventory.

    Maybe police do not actually need area-denial weaponry present at every public gathering. Maybe "people are throwing bottles at us, therefore tear gas" need not be the standard playbook.

    The medical research on the _safety_ of CS gas suggests a spectrum from "unknown" to "probably dangerous, particularly the way it actually used": https://www.propublica.org/article/tear-gas-is-way-more-dangerous-than-police-let-on-especially-during-the-coronavirus-pandemic https://med.umn.edu/news/u-m-study-shows-little-research-available-long-term-effects-tear-gas-use

    I had less luck finding studies about its _effectiveness_ of CS gas for the presumed goals of police forces: officer safety and encouraging compliance with dispersal order. I found a lot of quotes from police along the lines of "well, the only alternative is bashing people with batons" One study of the introduction of CS spray in UK police forces (for personal protection, not crowd control) did not find a clear win: https://doi.org/10.1108/13639510010343065

    Anecdotally, we might look at the current situation at LA, or that a few years ago in Minneapolis, and note that CS gas was not effective in reducing crowd antagonism, even if it does move people from one place to another.

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      Tear Gas Is Way More Dangerous Than Police Let On — Especially During the Coronavirus Pandemic
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      In the middle of a respiratory pandemic, law enforcement agencies have used tear gas in especially dangerous ways. The chemical agent also seeps into homes, contaminates food, furniture, skin and surfaces, and can cause long-term lung damage.

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      Arming a traditionally disarmed police: an examination of police use of CS gas in the UK
      The introduction of police use of CS gas within the UK has prompted widespread criticism. This article begins with the background to the introduction of CS gas, including the rationale behind its use. This is followed by an elucidation of the concerns and problems ensuing from its use, namely danger to health, police use/misuse, its effectiveness as a deterrent to police assaults, and police accountability. Throughout the article a number of recent cases are discussed.

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