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   Glyph (glyph@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 00:12:20 JST Glyph

   Shitty people, shitty values, shitty culture. https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:hafxlnw235qrcil2lpohp2ly/post/3lr5q6dqynk2e #USPol

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     Glyph (glyph@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 00:12:20 JST Glyph

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     I really cannot stress this enough. When I visited France, I visited a building where I read an entry in a log book where a Nazi recorded my great-grandmother's death in the camps. The name of this building was the "Musée de la Résistance et de la *Déportation*". It was not the "museum of the death camps" because they don't _call_ them death camps. While it's happening, they call it "deportations". The name "death camps" shows up once the occupying army is rolling their tanks into your capital.

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     Glyph (glyph@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 09:37:04 JST Glyph

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     When I say that "abolishing ICE is the centrist position" I mean that as someone who, perhaps as a squishy centrist lib dummy, does not want violence. This is the position that ICE agents should favor. They should favor it because the other thing, the "left-wing" position, the thing that any student of history can tell you *is what happens* to the "deportation police" once such a thing exists, is *much, much worse for them*. And the LA protests are approaching that outcome *fast*.

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     Glyph (glyph@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 09:37:35 JST Glyph

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     Like, speaking of France, can anybody else think of a time that a popular uprising targeted a prison in an urban center where political prisoners were being taken? Anyone pass world history in high school and remember anything interesting that happened to the people *running* that prison? Did it work out really well for them?

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     JP (jplebreton@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 09:37:54 JST JP

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     @glyph leftists don't want violence either, we just accept the necessity of it in defending society against the right. if fascists take over your hometown and start arresting people and you fight back you didn't suddenly become leftist, you simply found yourself in a different power dynamic closer to reality.
     in general we should reject characterizations of violence as a political valence. much of the unspeakable violence of our current era has been in the defense of liberal centrist order.

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     🦃 Kat Callahan :chiba: 🦃 (jezebelkat@famichiki.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jun-2025 10:09:10 JST 🦃 Kat Callahan :chiba: 🦃

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     A lot of people working for or with or as the state have forgotten the social contract isn't a gift from those on high. Rather it is a promise that in exchange for basic levels of liberty and welfare, the working classes don't rise up in very violent revolt.