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   ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Wednesday, 28-May-2025 20:14:41 JST ≠
   When Did Things Get So Dark? https://www.amerika.org/politics/when-did-things-get-so-dark/
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Wednesday, 28-May-2025 20:20:08 JST pistolero

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     > because Christians believe souls and morality are disconnected from bodies and reality, GWB could not confront that issue and instead passed the Patriot Act.
     
     The man whose father was the first CIA president and that had no meaningful policy differences with the previous "break as many teeth as possible while cramming NAFTA down their throats" administration didn't pass the USAPATRIOT Act because he was unwilling to view the world as material: it's just the shit that Clinton didn't have the political capital to pass after the Clipper Chip failed. The point was the surveillance: 9/11 provided an excuse, not an impetus.
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     Going Red (simpadoo@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 29-May-2025 14:17:47 JST Going Red

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     @p @amerika The statement about Christians is incorrect: it’s an actual heresy.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 29-May-2025 14:28:26 JST pistolero

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     @Simpadoo @amerika Well, I think I'm qualified to discuss doctrine but I don't have a dog in the fight. I will say that @amerika probably doesn't mind heresy and that most presidents (Clintons, Bushes, Obama, etc.; Biden was Catholic, I don't know what Trump is, like "vaguely Christian enough for marketing purposes") have been Methodist, so read "Methodists" for "Christians" in there.
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     ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-May-2025 15:21:02 JST ≠

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     Diversity made surveillance inevitable, but governments always seek to solidify their position.
     
     Some of this is understandable, since it sucks to get thrown out of power because someone snuck one past you.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 29-May-2025 15:23:29 JST pistolero

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     @amerika I think having a hidden agenda makes surveillance inevitable.
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     ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-May-2025 15:24:47 JST ≠

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     @Simpadoo @p
     
     Christianity is incoherent, since most of it was borrowed from nearby religions and philosophies.
     
     However, whether it is a heresy or not (according to whom, in a decentralized religion of ten thousand sects), most Christians see the equality of souls in Heaven as more important than the division of souls on Earth.
     
     That is contradicted by reality.
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     Going Red (simpadoo@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 29-May-2025 15:25:06 JST Going Red

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     @amerika @p It’s in the Symbolorum Apostolurum. Read a book sometime.
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     ≠ (amerika@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 29-May-2025 15:25:10 JST ≠

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     @Simpadoo @p
     
     One does not need to read much to understand Christianity! lol
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     Going Red (simpadoo@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 29-May-2025 15:26:14 JST Going Red

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     @amerika @p Oh but you should, if you want to discuss items and not look like an uninformed actor.
     
     What do you think this means? “ Credo in Spiritum Sanctum, sanctam Ecclesiam Catholicam, sanctorum communionem, remissionem peccatorum, carnis resurrectionem, vitam aeternam. Amen.”
     
     This was from the beginning of Christianity. Clearly they didn’t believe the soul and the body were separate.
     
     It’s why I say that you should try knowing about something before uttering and opinion.
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     Going Red (simpadoo@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 29-May-2025 20:17:21 JST Going Red

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     @p @amerika I would call Biden an apostate as his positions clearly demonstrate his aversion to Christianity as a whole. It is a problem that the clergy in the Church, which very very few exceptions don’t have the Charity to refuse Holy Communion to politicians at odds with the Faith they claim to profess.
     
     I don’t see that changing anytime soon as it seems we are headed to a reckoning that we’ve heartily earned.
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 29-May-2025 20:43:39 JST pistolero

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     > clergy in the Church, which very very few exceptions don’t have the Charity to refuse Holy Communion to politicians at odds with the Faith they claim to profess.
     
     The Pope called Biden "a good Catholic". Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM.
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     Going Red (simpadoo@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 29-May-2025 23:30:22 JST Going Red

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     @p @amerika To Bergoglio, a fellow heretic, Biden was A-OK. No surprise there. I don’t know about the deal IBM though .
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     pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 29-May-2025 23:32:06 JST pistolero

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     @Simpadoo @amerika Oh, industry aphorism; "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" is "the safe choice doesn't invite criticism".