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   Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 09:54:20 JST Rusty Crab
   Taking a crack at unreal editor for the first time. Hitting the wall of an enormous parameter space and obviously not sure what to do without reading the documentation.
   
   Doing literally any action and watching what it does to my CPU is fucking insane.
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:11:22 JST Lina Inver?e

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     @RustyCrab i wonder if it was like that with unreal 1 editor back in the 90s
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:19:53 JST Rusty Crab

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     • Lina Inver?e
     @lina allegedly unreal 5 had an enormous, disproportionate impact on project build and export times. People were reporting that build steps roughly doubled coming from UE4 (and we're talking on the scale of multiple hours).
     
     Working on the bleeding edge has always strained the limits of current hardware but consensus seems to be that UE5 is particularly egregious
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:27:06 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • Pawlicker
     @PurpCat @RustyCrab yea but thats unreal engine 2
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:27:07 JST Pawlicker

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     • Lina Inver?e
     @lina @RustyCrab postal 2's editor help is literally shitting on how buggy unrealed was but it wasn't this bad
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:31:47 JST Pawlicker

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     • Lina Inver?e
     @lina @RustyCrab unreal engine 1 unrealed (especially for Unreal 1) is also buggy and oldunreal talks about how it crashed all the time but the postal 2 help is funny as shit
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:31:47 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • Pawlicker
     @PurpCat @RustyCrab well they were like using unreal engine 2 with a fuckload of tweaks and scripts and edits from unreal engine 1 so no surprise it was so volatile
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:44:07 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • Pawlicker
     @RustyCrab @PurpCat what the fuck
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:44:08 JST Rusty Crab

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     @PurpCat @lina also it's seriously unbelievable how much fucking disk space this uses. Just compiling the UE5 base engine had eaten up 600GB of space on my disk. A blank game with nothing in it is taking up an additional 50.
     
     We need to start fat shaming developers
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:44:09 JST Rusty Crab

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     • Lina Inver?e
     • Pawlicker
     @PurpCat @lina I've actually hit several crashes in UE5 already with no modifications from me. Just using the basic bitch terrain editor bombed out because a sprite unexpectedly didn't load.
     
     I finally have a machine powerful enough to compile the thing so I'm going in and fixing bugs myself. Considering this part of the educational process.
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:49:00 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • Pawlicker
     @RustyCrab @PurpCat how the fuck is this even acceptable, i know storage is fucking cheap but this is a fucking joke, man
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:49:01 JST Rusty Crab

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     @lina @PurpCat yeah. I've got a 2TB drive with nothing else on it but visual studio build tools, jetbrains Rider, the UE5 source and one test project and that's filled up almost half the disk.
     
     I have a few spare nvmes around and I'm gonna need to install those without a doubt
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:49:59 JST Pawlicker

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     • Lina Inver?e
     @RustyCrab @lina they've literally turned the game into shit more rigged than online gambling with SBMM
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:50:00 JST Rusty Crab

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     • Lina Inver?e
     • Pawlicker
     @PurpCat @lina proud to say I never played cod
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:50:01 JST Pawlicker

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     • Lina Inver?e
     @RustyCrab @lina remember when the new cod would max out the HDD of a 500gb PS4/Xbox?
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     Forest of Enchantment (forestofenchantment@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:51:06 JST Forest of Enchantment

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     • Pawlicker
     @PurpCat @RustyCrab @lina It started being shit with Black Ops III. COD was perhaps the first game series to begin the cognitively dissonant nu-gaming experience of treating the player like a retard with 30-minute tutorials, yet being as vacuously violent and safe-edgy as possible.
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:53:18 JST Rusty Crab

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     • Pawlicker
     @lina @PurpCat like I said
     FAT
     SHAMING
     
     Rust (the language) is even worse. There's a small project I use called komorebi. It literally just places some windows around your desktop and makes them look kinda nice. Compiling it will output 30 gigs worth of intermediate files.
     
     This is what modern programmers consider acceptable :terrydavisdancing:
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:53:52 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • Pawlicker
     @RustyCrab @PurpCat screw fat shaming, we need to beat shitcoders like that with baseball bats, rebars and crowbars
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:55:07 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • Pawlicker
     @RustyCrab @PurpCat and pipe wrenches
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:55:08 JST Rusty Crab

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     • Lina Inver?e
     • Pawlicker
     @lina @PurpCat half life reference
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:55:52 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • Pawlicker
     @RustyCrab @PurpCat NO
     OPPOSING FORCE REFERENCE
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:55:53 JST Rusty Crab

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     • Lina Inver?e
     • Pawlicker
     @lina @PurpCat BioShock reference
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:56:02 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • Pawlicker
     @RustyCrab @PurpCat STAB SHITCODERS WITH SCISSORS
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:57:25 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • Pawlicker
     @RustyCrab @PurpCat with his jaws, like how great grey wolf sif holds the sword in his mouth
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 10:57:26 JST Rusty Crab

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     • Lina Inver?e
     • Pawlicker
     @lina @PurpCat how does this guy use a pipe wrench
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     zonk (zonk@shitposter.world)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 12:55:07 JST zonk

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     @Coyote @PurpCat @RustyCrab @lina what was the eventual solution, if you don't mind me asking?
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     Coyote (coyote@social.singing.dog)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 12:55:08 JST Coyote

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     • Lina Inver?e
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     @RustyCrab @PurpCat @lina I was at a job that needed a nightly sync between international offices with deltas in the 500 to 1000 GB range; loading the data up on an SSD and "same day" shipping it was a serious consideration.

     wormthen repeated this.
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     Rusty Crab (rustycrab@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 12:55:09 JST Rusty Crab

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     • Lina Inver?e
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     • Pawlicker
     @Coyote @PurpCat @lina yeah but that much data also starts making for bandwidth problems. The cognitive load from having to wait so long for the editor or compiler to perform any given action is real.
     
     Even on enterprise grade servers the experience is sluggish at best.
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     Coyote (coyote@social.singing.dog)'s status on Saturday, 24-May-2025 12:55:10 JST Coyote

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     • Lina Inver?e
     • Pawlicker

     @RustyCrab @PurpCat @lina In a corporate setting, it's really easy to ask IT for another hard drive, and they'll send over a dude to plug in another 2 TB SSD in under 30 minutes. The steady flow of new disks is cheaper than paying an engineer to pare back the dev install size.