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   silverwizard (silverwizard@convenient.email)'s status on Wednesday, 21-May-2025 01:30:31 JST silverwizard

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   @chris @rl_dane @alatartheblue Linux is defined by dependency hell to the point it's no longer a target, I agree with that. But I think that complexity from systemd (and containers) is a huge contributor to that mess.
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     Root Moose (chris@root.moose.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 21-May-2025 01:30:32 JST Root Moose

     @alatartheblue @silverwizard @rl_dane Bunch a thoughts to unpack and I'm not going to bother being boring to make the case.

     I think we are at the point where we need to stop referring to the operating system "Linux" and actually call operating systems what they are and give them their due.

     Debian OS
     Mint OS
     Elementary OS
     Arch OS
     Alpine OS
     Solus OS

     etc., etc.

     We know this is already technically correct but in wider conversation it is not the norm.

     Related to systemd, this would further abstract it away perhaps. Today using the term Linux infers systemd but specific operating system references due not infer systemd.

     FWIW, I don't have a huge 'hate on' for systemd or whatever. I see it's utility.