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   fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 21:59:37 JST fu
   I really should stop being surprised by things. theguardian.com/us-news/2025/m…
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     Linux Walt (@lnxw37j1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw37j1@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Tuesday, 20-May-2025 22:17:21 JST Linux Walt (@lnxw37j1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     @fu That's surprising at first, until one realizes it is the same kind of "Noble South" BS that many states down there teach.
     
     They teach that wasn't the South that started the Civil War ("The War of Northern Aggression") by attacking a Union fort, it was the Union that started the war by not giving in on several contented issues (slavery was on the list, but they pretend they didn't start killing other White people over the belief that a few wealthy White landowners should own Black people.
     
     Likewise, it wasn't that widespread but undocumented rumors of cheating in a closely observed election were not sufficient to overturn the election results, it was patriots on 2021-01-06 were not successful in persuading politicians to stop the election from being stolen.
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     fu (fu@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 21-May-2025 18:35:21 JST fu

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     • Linux Walt (@lnxw37j1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
     @lnxw37j1 Oklahoma wasn't even part of the confederacy.
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     Linux Walt (@lnxw37j1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw37j1@gnusocial.jp)'s status on Friday, 23-May-2025 03:29:20 JST Linux Walt (@lnxw37j1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     @fu@libranet.de They were "Indian Territory" at the time, but wedged between TX (CSA) and MO (USA, but some state leaders formed a rival CSA gov't in the SW corner until the union pushed them out), they were still right there in the thick of things.
     
     When they became a state, riding right on the the top of Texas had to be a big influence.