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   Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Thursday, 08-May-2025 04:20:50 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

   So apparently nearly all students cheat with AI chatbots now and basically aren't learning anything https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/openai-chatgpt-ai-cheating-education-college-students-school.html

   I'm grateful I got my education before these tools were available.

   Still, part of this might be that education might be best if it's not actually based around grading, but working with students to actually be excited about learning

   But there's no way such a worldview will be rolled out in time to survive this

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     Dan Sugalski (wordshaper@weatherishappening.network)'s status on Thursday, 08-May-2025 04:58:21 JST Dan Sugalski

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     @cwebber The incentives in education currently make ChatGPT and other cheat tool use pretty much inevitable and inexorable and that was a really depressing sentence to have typed out.

     Fixing this isn't complex, but like many not-complex things I don't think it's going to happen. Unfortunately.

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     +>e (eons@mastodon.gamedev.place)'s status on Thursday, 08-May-2025 05:02:46 JST +>e

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     @cwebber I can confirm, as head of an associate degree(full online)that it's like that, and (exaggerating) while the previous generation couldn't read a book, the new TikTok generation can't even watch a video of more than 30s.
     And not because they can't learn but because they don't know that they can.

     I think that the culprit is the basic school system that doesn't teach to learn, to ask, to fail; then kids focus in the wrong goal which are grades instead of acquiring knowledge and experience.

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     Adam Moe (adammoe2022@c.im)'s status on Thursday, 08-May-2025 07:22:28 JST Adam Moe

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     @cwebber Yep. Phones and AI are making kids stupid. I’ve seen it in classes. I even had some kids gambling online during a class I was subbing for. It’s bad.

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     lj·rk (ljrk@todon.eu)'s status on Thursday, 08-May-2025 19:08:22 JST lj·rk

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     @cwebber Precisely. If the goal of the class is to pass the test, people will seek the path of least resistance. Also this is an easy setting for the educators, since the burden is on the students.

     If the goal of the class is to make students interested in a topic and have them learn most, much more of the burden is on the educator to think about how to facilitate that.

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     Indieterminacy (indieterminacy@social.coop)'s status on Monday, 12-May-2025 21:06:20 JST Indieterminacy

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     @cwebber This thread from academics discussing it not only presents a picture on the strains of regulating such widespread activity but points towards a mental strain that such interrogations place on the empathetic staff:
     https://mastodon.social/@VCP/114492468455911725