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   gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 21:45:45 JST gray

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   @zero gnu/retard
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     Zero :zt_think: :artix: (zero@strelizia.net)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 21:45:44 JST Zero :zt_think: :artix:

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     @gray free as in autism
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 21:47:26 JST Phantasm

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     @zero @gray I haven't done for a long time until now. It's like talking to some autist and progressively getting dumber replies. You bait with a single sentence and get 3 paragraphs back.
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     gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 21:47:27 JST gray

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     @zero why do people reply to him? he’s too retarded to see any other viewpoint
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     Zero :zt_think: :artix: (zero@strelizia.net)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 21:47:27 JST Zero :zt_think: :artix:

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     @gray they like talking to a wall
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     Zero :zt_think: :artix: (zero@strelizia.net)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 21:47:47 JST Zero :zt_think: :artix:

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     @gray it's like rhe intermediate output, used for code analysis and shit, clang makes it super easy to use but they purposely made gcc's one impossible to use so "proprietary software couldn't use it"
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     Zero :zt_think: :artix: (zero@strelizia.net)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 21:47:48 JST Zero :zt_think: :artix:

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     @gray you know they made the gcc compiler output unusable by IDEs on purpose because people might use it (imagine that!)
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     gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 21:47:48 JST gray

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     @zero no I didn’t know that but I don’t know anything about programming. I just want a usable system with minimal effort.
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     Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 21:47:49 JST Pawlicker

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     @gray @zero it's funny when someone gets him into arguing stupid shit
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     gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 21:47:49 JST gray

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     @zero it’s the dumbest argument every time.
     we need to make our software unusable to keep the normies out and for freedom
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     gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 21:57:27 JST gray

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     @phnt @zero he did this to me once because I said I wouldn’t install gentoo on my grandma’s computer
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     Zero :zt_think: :artix: (zero@strelizia.net)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 21:57:37 JST Zero :zt_think: :artix:

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     @phnt @gray very bot-like
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     gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:02:32 JST gray

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     @zero @phnt I guess I just don’t value her freedom
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     Zero :zt_think: :artix: (zero@strelizia.net)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:02:33 JST Zero :zt_think: :artix:

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     @gray @phnt how could you
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:19:17 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @zero @gray poking the village idiot
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:19:50 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @zero @gray reminder that gcc was utter dogshit until apple poured millions into it
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     gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:19:57 JST gray

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     @zero sounds right for those types of people
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:20:16 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @PurpCat @gray @zero i got him to say that a baby muncher 9000 would be good if it was foss
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     Based Stable Lunatic (basedlunatic@annihilation.social)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:20:24 JST Based Stable Lunatic

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     @phnt @gray @zero I have lived this experience I feel
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     Zero :zt_think: :artix: (zero@strelizia.net)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:20:28 JST Zero :zt_think: :artix:

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     @gray @phnt what is funny is that stallman disapproves of gentoo cause you can install non-free software easily
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:22:26 JST Phantasm

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     @zero @gray Suisei dislikes Gentoo now, because they dared to label the distro kernel as licensed under GPL-2.0. Something something about firmware or whatever. Too lazy to find the thread.
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:23:59 JST Phantasm

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     @mischievoustomato @PurpCat @gray @zero He said KFC food was proprietary and later called food made from cats as fine in response to some vegan meme.
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:24:13 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @phnt @PurpCat @gray @zero lmao
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:27:48 JST Phantasm

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     @gray @zero It was bad even before that, because they dared to host the contrib and non-free repos for drivers and hardware enablement.
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     gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:27:49 JST gray

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     @zero @phnt Debian is evil now because they poisoned their ISOs with non-free packages
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:33:09 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @phnt @gray @zero it's funny how people like suiseiseki argue against that stuff, even when you tell them it renders most people unable to stomach using any linux distro. At that point it becomes clear they are nonsensical and thus should just be ignored.
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     gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:35:13 JST gray

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     @phnt @zero that reminds me he hates OpenWRT because they include proprietary firmware because for some reason people like modern hardware and would like it to work properly
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     Zero :zt_think: :artix: (zero@strelizia.net)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:38:33 JST Zero :zt_think: :artix:

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     @phnt @gray the linux kernel is only gpl2, linus made a point to make that clear in the license
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     Johnny Peligro (mischievoustomato@tsundere.love)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:39:10 JST Johnny Peligro

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     @zero @gray @phnt i think it would've been hilarious if linus made the kernel gpl3 and that effectively killed it
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:41:25 JST Phantasm

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     @zero @gray Yeah, but he had some stupid take about that license being inaccurate in Gentoo, because it can load firmware from linux-firmware or whatever.
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:42:35 JST Phantasm

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     @mischievoustomato @gray @zero And that's exactly where the fun with arguing with these people is. It's the easiest "trolling" ever, because you are almost guaranteed to get an answer to your liking.
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     Zero :zt_think: :artix: (zero@strelizia.net)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:44:42 JST Zero :zt_think: :artix:

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     @mischievoustomato @gray @phnt it would have killed it, that's why he was against the license saying "gpl 2.0 or later" or whatever
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     gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:44:44 JST gray

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     @mischievoustomato @phnt @zero relicense it under MIT or BSD.
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     di0nysius the patomskyite (dsm@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:49:59 JST di0nysius the patomskyite

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     @mischievoustomato @zero @gray
     
     Tagging you.
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:57:22 JST Phantasm

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     @zero @gray This is it, if you want to read the take. It's about the no-source-code thing, because you dare to download binary redistributables, ie. linux-firmware.
     
     As far as I understand, putting no-source-code into the Linux ebuilds would make them masked, because no-source-code belongs in the BINARY-REDISTRIBUTABLE group which isn't enabled by default. That would make Gentoo literally unusable unless you used linux-libre, which is exactly what he wants.
     
     https://freesoftwareextremist.com/objects/f4533db4-3b9f-49b5-91bb-20225d89ae24
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     Zero :zt_think: :artix: (zero@strelizia.net)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:57:23 JST Zero :zt_think: :artix:

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     @phnt @gray that makes no sense, he's retarded
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:58:57 JST Phantasm

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     @mischievoustomato @PurpCat @gray @zero
     
     Enjoy: https://freesoftwareextremist.com/objects/bbc01c1f-589d-4ef9-8342-63cabd71d00c
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     wuhan.bat™ (jae@darkdork.dev)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 22:59:57 JST wuhan.bat™

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     @phnt @gray @zero @mischievoustomato at one point i made a comment about the time i was ordering iot toothbrushes (for experiments) from aliexpress and he went on a rant about proprietary firmware. i was not in a place to get into it so i muted the thread.
     
     i like foss and open source, but i'm a firm believer in people computing how they want.
     
     like bsd? linux? beos? plan9? windows? mac? etc? great. get to work and have some computer fun. if someone comes and tells me "you can't" it's not going to be a good day.
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     gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 23:01:21 JST gray

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     @phnt @zero oh I remember that thread. He stopped watching anime because they portrayed proprietary software.
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     Phantasm (phnt@fluffytail.org)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 23:08:33 JST Phantasm

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     @jae @gray @zero @mischievoustomato
     >i like foss and open source, but i'm a firm believer in people computing how they want.
     When you think about it, people like Suisei are cucked by their own beliefs in software. Like consciously refusing to use NetBSD for example even though it checks all the important boxes for my use and is better at it than Linux can ever be is beyond my understanding. At that point it's beyond consciously refusing to use any proprietary software, which I can sort of understand, because NetBSD simply isn't proprietary.
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     gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 23:13:58 JST gray

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     @phnt @jae @zero @mischievoustomato he says the BSD license is “proprietary” whatever that means
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     Zero :zt_think: :artix: (zero@strelizia.net)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 23:16:54 JST Zero :zt_think: :artix:

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     @gray @jae @phnt @mischievoustomato proprietary is when you have the source code and can modify it in any way you want, so true!
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     wuhan.bat™ (jae@darkdork.dev)'s status on Friday, 02-May-2025 23:22:36 JST wuhan.bat™

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     @phnt @gray @zero @mischievoustomato
     
     > When you think about it, people like Suisei are cucked by their own beliefs in software.
     
     when they post in their profile "free software terrorist/gnu jihad" you already know it's going to be a long and frustrating road interacting.
     
     i use alpine and openbsd. i make no justifications or apologies for what i use. these systems check boxes for the research i'm into even though i'm usually getting critiqued by my lunatic social circle.
     
     life is too short not to have fun
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     Иоанн Павел Грипс (grips@eientei.org)'s status on Saturday, 03-May-2025 00:46:13 JST Иоанн Павел Грипс

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     @gray @zero it's like talking to an AI. you know what to expect, but some of the dumb shit can still surprise you
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     gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 03-May-2025 01:37:55 JST gray

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     @jae @phnt @zero @mischievoustomato for me it’s mostly the wireless support on it for now.
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     gray (gray@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Saturday, 03-May-2025 01:37:56 JST gray

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     @zero @jae @phnt @mischievoustomato I’d run a BSD if it had better hardware support
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     @gray @phnt @zero @mischievoustomato
     
     freebsd is pretty good in that regard. unless you're running the latest intel/amd platforms you're probably fine.