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   Fan of OpenBSD (puffy4life@snac.bsd.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Apr-2025 02:29:29 JST Fan of OpenBSD
   I am brand new to trying to setup a router firewall system, would people share their pf rules so I can have an idea what to put for ruleset? #openbsd
   
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     feld (feld@friedcheese.us)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Apr-2025 02:31:04 JST feld

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     • Jez Caudle :verified:
     @puffy4life @JezCaudle I agree that one of the hardest things in tech is learning the lingo, but once you get over that hurdle things become much easier (obviously). But I agree that it is a rather unnecessary barrier that could be removed with documentation that explains things more clearly to people who are less familiar with the technology.
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     Fan of OpenBSD (puffy4life@snac.bsd.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Apr-2025 02:31:06 JST Fan of OpenBSD

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     • Jez Caudle :verified:
     @JezCaudle@infosec.exchange May issue is parching the linguistic formatting. That's my one long standing criticism of #openbsd FAQ and examples. There seems to be no consideration of cohesive phrasing. There are only seems to be an attitude of "It works, I explained it, if it doesn't calculate for you that's your problem".
     
     Maybe I'm alone in saying I would re-write a lot of OpenBSD's instructions to be articulate in a linear style so one connects to another rather so the user can zoom out and see the larger picture of how it all is intertwined and connects rather than written in a manner of isolated and separate bits of information with no sysinced perspective.
     
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     Jez Caudle :verified: (jezcaudle@infosec.exchange)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Apr-2025 02:31:07 JST Jez Caudle :verified:

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     • Jan

     @puffy4life @jan I understand. I’m a visual person so I draw diagrams and write out the rules in long hand and then implement what I think the rules should be in my lab - 20 year old Dell desktop and 4 Raspberry Pi’s - and then alter them until they work.

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     Fan of OpenBSD (puffy4life@snac.bsd.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Apr-2025 02:31:08 JST Fan of OpenBSD

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     • Jan
     @jan@bsd.cafe Some of the phrasing or linguistic style doesn't be sense to be options in examples I have have questions of why it is written that why and why one setting or option isn't placed connected to something else given the phrasing.
     
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     Jan (jan@mastodon.bsd.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Apr-2025 02:31:10 JST Jan

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     @puffy4life look at the man page and the faq. These are good examples