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god my college is not only useless but absolutely career sabotaging
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@meeper how so?
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@cell Didn't at all teach anything of any worth, absolutely useless peers, created a culture of complacency, wasted time in bullshit, didn't allow us to do internships until like the final year and didn't give any time to find any now.
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@meeper @cell
if it's IT, do some certificates maybe? as a student and in your geo region they should be affordable.
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@kaia @cell aren't they considered absolutely useless?
idk tbh, also there is an awful crowd and you can find like a 1000 applicants on a fucking paid intership job post scam in under a day
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@meeper @cell it depends on the HR person and the cert. like CompTIA is okay if you did Security+ etc.
alternatively and equally valid is volunteering for open source, e.g. becoming an Arch package maintainer. don't become FOSS/FSF bro, that one is a career-hindering move.
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@kaia @meeper > don't become FOSS/FSF bro, that one is a career-hindering move.
brave words to write on fedi :akkoGiggle:
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@kaia @cell True, like the past like 3-4 years I was the worst kind of Foss bro, the annoying type that was only opinionated on sofwatre and didn't make anything or honestly learn much. so that was really self sabotage
I guess I can do low hanging stuff, I was able to handle myself on a c++ repo when I tried to do for gsoc. I had no experience with cpp before and found it impossible to read but when I actually tried it took less than a day for me to decently work with it.
Procrastination is bad though but I think I've made decent progress there
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@meeper @kaia @cell do some work in open source projects, that’s the easiest way to get into places that don’t even have HR.
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@lain @kaia @meeper i mean that worked well for you and a few others i happen to know of :cat_si:👍
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@lain @kaia @cell What kind of projects should I look at? I feel if I just follow what my gneet interests suit to I'd find myself in dead ends?
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@meeper @lain @cell
the projects you are most interested and personally invested in, as long as it's not adult topic or anime :Sheew:
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@meeper @kaia @cell not sure what you mean by dead end. I think mostly it's just about finding something that you either want to create or improve, and then doing a little bit. fixing a little bug in pleroma, or writing a little tool that does something that you need, then putting it online. After a while you have a portfolio of actual, real life work that you can freely show to anyone which shows that you're actually capable. If you work in free software projects on github/gitlab, people can usually even see how you interacted with other people and that's great too.
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@cell @kaia @meeper it won't get anyone immediately into IBM to write java enterprise, but there's so many other companies that are probably more fun to work for, especially as someone starting out.
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@kaia @lain @meeper >anime
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@cell @kaia @lain The weebcoder grindset (upper echelon of CS)
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@cell @kaia @meeper *several people are typing*
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@moth_ball @kaia @cell @meeper
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@kaia @cell @meeper >don't become FOSS/FSF bro, that one is a career-hindering move.
"FOSS" is half about licking corporate boot, thus that won't hinder a "career".
Being a freedom enjoyer will ensure that you don't undergo the immoral acts of stealing people's freedom with proprietary malware, but why would that prevent you from carrying out any job that you certainly don't want to be employed in.
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@lain @kaia @cell @meeper I had no energy left during my apprenticeship to actually do anything on the side. Before I didn't do that much either, but I also don't want to spend significant amounts of my time working aside from a full-time job and I don't think I can keep that up either. Which is one of the reasons why I'm trying to change careers now.
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@kaia @cell @meeper does HR really differentiate between volunteering for the open source cuck-licensed (MIT) project or the enlightened AGPLv3+ librecore software project with a soulful CC-Zero 2003-style cartoon mascot? That's bleak