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   Ross Duncan (rossquantum@mathstodon.xyz)'s status on Friday, 18-Apr-2025 15:39:38 JST Ross Duncan

   WAT. #emacs #macOS

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     bignose (bignose@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 18-Apr-2025 15:39:35 JST bignose

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     • argv minus one

     @argv_minus_one
     > macOS scanning happens on an Apple server. App publishers must submit their apps to that server for scanning.

     Oh, so I was closer than I thought: Apple hates #FreeSoftware so much that they won't even acknowledge they *already have* everything they need to scan #Emacs for anything they want

     and they petulantly refuse to do it unless the developer kisses the ring and submits to non-free conditions. And then complains *to the end user* that Apple failed.

     @rossquantum

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     bignose (bignose@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 18-Apr-2025 15:39:36 JST bignose

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     Yeah, I know this is just some quirk in MacOS scanning of installed programs. It's still funny. @rossquantum

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     argv minus one (argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Friday, 18-Apr-2025 15:39:36 JST argv minus one

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     @bignose @rossquantum

     The quirk in question is that macOS scanning happens on an Apple server. App publishers must submit their apps to that server for scanning. If the scan checks out, the server generates a cryptographic signature of the app, certifying it as malware-free.

     App publishers must agree to a giant wall of legalese and restrictions, and pay $99/year, for the privilege of scanning their apps. FOSS developers generally won't do this.

     Alfred M. Szmidt repeated this.
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     bignose (bignose@fosstodon.org)'s status on Friday, 18-Apr-2025 15:39:37 JST bignose

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     I'd phrase that as “Apple could not comprehend #FreeSoftware enough to use Freedom 1”.

     Everything about #Emacs, *and this must include the build system*, is open for examination. Guaranteed by the license.

     If Apple can't determine whether it's malware, and they pop up a big announcement of that? They announce their incompetence.

     @rossquantum