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   Alfred M. Szmidt (amszmidt@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 18-Apr-2025 15:17:49 JST Alfred M. Szmidt

   @emacsomancer Emacs is an editor, not a computer. There is nothing ersatz about it. They are two totally different things.

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     Alfred M. Szmidt (amszmidt@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 18-Apr-2025 15:26:16 JST Alfred M. Szmidt

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     • Elias Mårtenson

     @loke Emacs has literally nothing to do with Lisp Machines. Your thinking of a specific implementation of Emacs, GNU Emacs which does implement parts of what might be considered a LispM.

     @emacsomancer

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     Elias Mårtenson (loke@functional.cafe)'s status on Friday, 18-Apr-2025 15:26:17 JST Elias Mårtenson

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     @amszmidt @emacsomancer Not totally, and unless you are very careful when you define the words "editor" and especially "lisp machine", all of us who lament the state of modern operating systems will keep getting misunderstood.

     Emacs is certainly an 'ersatz' Lisp Machine if you define 'lisp machine' as a thing that runs some kind of Lisp and contains a user interface on top. That completely ignores everything that makes Lisp machines interesting, but we have to acknowledge that people doesn't know this.

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     Alfred M. Szmidt (amszmidt@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 18-Apr-2025 20:40:45 JST Alfred M. Szmidt

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     • Elias Mårtenson
     • Lars Brinkhoff

     @larsbrinkhoff "Today, I think we can charitably interpret people saying Unix as talking specifically about GNU/Linux."

     @loke @emacsomancer

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     Lars Brinkhoff (larsbrinkhoff@mastodon.sdf.org)'s status on Friday, 18-Apr-2025 20:40:46 JST Lars Brinkhoff

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     • Elias Mårtenson

     @amszmidt @loke @emacsomancer Today, I think we can charitably interpret people saying "Emacs" as talking specifically about "GNU Emacs". Maybe even forgive them for not knowing that Emacs-the-abstract-editor-idea can and did have other implementation and extension languages.