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   khurata?? (khurata@fedibird.com)'s status on Friday, 18-Apr-2025 14:34:09 JST khurata??

   https://gigazine.net/news/20250418-discord-sue-child-safety/
   それが大事なのは同意するけれども、それを追及していったらインターネットそのものが「アウト」だとも思う。　２０年くらい昔からウチが時々言っている事だが、ネットへのアウトプットアクセスをクルマやバイクと同じくらい厳密な免許制にするくらいしか実効的な方策は思い付かない。　それでも交通事故は起きるだろうが、子供も大人も無免許無マナーで公道を暴走しまくっている現状よりは、はるかにマシになると予想する。

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     khurata?? (khurata@fedibird.com)'s status on Friday, 18-Apr-2025 17:09:44 JST khurata??

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     • KetsuneMajin🔞

     @ketsunemajin 記事の内容を見る限りでは、「言いがかり」に見えました。　それ言ったら他のサービスはどうなんだ、と。
     根拠の無い推測ですが、関連団体が「仕事してる振り」を演出するためにやっているのでは、と勘ぐっています。

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     KetsuneMajin🔞 (ketsunemajin@baraag.net)'s status on Friday, 18-Apr-2025 17:09:45 JST KetsuneMajin🔞

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     @khurata この訴訟、過去のPornhubのものと同じように、今度はDiscordが未成年コンテンツ問題のスケープゴートにされているだけにも私は思えます。

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     khurata?? (khurata@fedibird.com)'s status on Friday, 18-Apr-2025 17:40:41 JST khurata??

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     • Ota_1504

     @Ota1504
     Thank you for your comment!

     My opinion follows.
     The parent is not perfect human, and the son is the independent personality, he has right of the his secret.
     Do you know "From the Mixed-up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler" the novel?
     https://www.amazon.com/Mixed-Up-Files-Mrs-Basil-Frankweiler/dp/0689711816/

     We are adults, we have to safety of children absolutely! But children needs owned secret for his growth.

     We must save and watch children for his safety, and we have not to bind children.
     It is difficult...We the adult have to think this complex theme well always...

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     Ota_1504 (ota1504@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 18-Apr-2025 17:40:42 JST Ota_1504

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     @khurata
     Hello and good evening
     
     thank you for your comment and understand your point, but I believe with conviction that the responsibility to educate and care for sons is the moral duty of parents, the parent must have absolute control to know what your son is doing online.I believe that the responsibility to educate and take care of the sons is the moral duty of the parents, the parent should have absolute control to know what their son is doing online, trust and self-esteem is born and cultivated in the family, that is to use common sense and tell the son not to trust strangers, be prudent, leave education to the state is a mistake because you lose autonomy and freedom in exchange for a false sense of security, your rights in exchange for a totalitarian horwelian control, is like with the AI outsources creativity, instead of the same human being to make use and exercise their intellect and creativity to work real wonders.
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     Ota_1504 (ota1504@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 18-Apr-2025 23:27:23 JST Ota_1504

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     @khurata
     Hello and good days, no... I don't know the text!
     But I appreciate you sharing it so I can get to know it.
     
     I agree with you that as adults we must be responsible and create a safe and respectful environment not only for sons but also for our neighbors.
     
     I also remember having a few secrets when I was a child, but I also saw that a few decades ago I didn't perceive so much evil, indolence, dullness of conscience, fear, and ignorance in society.
     
     For this reason, I believe that being responsible also means knowing how to take care of oneself and those you love through education, diligence, and prudence. I honestly believe that there should be no secrets between a father and a son, because at the end of the day, who is more than a father or a mother to care for, guide, and advise their own flesh and blood.
     That's why my idea, focus, and enthusiasm lie in both parents and sons working together as the family they are, seeking the common good for each other, and therein lies the importance of trusting each other. Both the father and the son need to know everything they do, what they like, what bothers them, what hurts them, etc., and be empathetic and a guide at the same time. Because the father teaches the son what is prudent and reckless, what is safe and what is dangerous, the first teaching is born in the family, not in school. For example, the teaching of values, faith, traditions, local customs, etc.
     
     I greatly appreciate your opinion and your time. Forgive me if my approach may not sound similar. Anyway, each person forms their own opinion based on their lived experiences and cultural environment. Thank you sincerely for taking a moment of your time to offer a response.
     🙇♂️ :aqua_salute: :gura_wave: :gura_approval:
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     khurata?? (khurata@fedibird.com)'s status on Friday, 18-Apr-2025 23:27:23 JST khurata??

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     • Ota_1504

     @Ota1504 Thank you for your message!

     That's right, "trusting"!
     Trusting between parents and children is very important.
     Children will talks "all" to parents without bad secret when we get trusted relationship from children.

     Maybe our way little different, but our target the saving children is same.
     Have a nice everyday!